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GAME 5 KASPAROV - DEEP BLUE
Philadelphia, PA
February 16, 1996

Commentary from the Internet Chess Club.
(Titled players' comments only, approximately 1600 lines)

GM = Grandmaster
IM = International Master
FM = FIDE Master
DM = Display Master
C  = computer

Last game:  Saturday at 3pm EST.
Live commentary for ICC members only.
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Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Type help Quiz18 for some very good background
\   information!
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  1.  e4                  e5                
  2.  Nf3                 Nf6               
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: 1.e4, as expected - but now an "Open Game"!
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Nxe5 64%, d4 22%, Nc3 9%, d3 1%, Bc4 1%,
\   Bd3 0%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  2.  Nf3                 Nf6               
  3.  Nc3               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Nc6 51%, Bb4 44%, d6 4%, Bc5 0%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  2.  Nf3                 Nf6               
  3.  Nc3                 Nc6               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Bb5 58%, d4 31%, g3 2%, Bc4 2%, Be2 1%, a3
\   0%)
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: i want a belgrade gambit!
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  3.  Nc3                 Nc6               
  4.  d4                
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (exd4 89%, Bb4 10%)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Petroff, surprisingly answered with the 4 Ns'
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  3.  Nc3                 Nc6               
  4.  d4                  exd4              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Nxd4 78%, Nd5 21%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  4.  d4                  exd4              
  5.  Nxd4              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Bb4 91%, d6 5%, Bc5 3%)
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: nd5, please!
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: potential Belgrade - no!
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  4.  d4                  exd4              
  5.  Nxd4                Bb4               
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: I would have thought Deep Blue wold prefer a more open game
\   with 3.d4 or 3.Nxe5
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Nxc6 99%, Bg5 0%)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: the Scotch 4 Ns
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  5.  Nxd4                Bb4               
  6.  Nxc6              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (bxc6 97%, Bxc3+ 2%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  5.  Nxd4                Bb4               
  6.  Nxc6                bxc6              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Bd3 99%, Bd2 0%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  6.  Nxc6                bxc6              
  7.  Bd3               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (d5 79%, o-o 18%, h6 1%, Bxc3+ 0%)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: this line has a dull and drawish reputation - K must be
\   pleased
cranken set *Deep-Blue's clock to 01:59:00.
cranken set *Kasparov's clock to 01:57:00.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: yes, POTZY, 3.d4 and 3.N*e5 would have been better
\   choices
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: the time control is 40/2, 20/1, SD/30
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: The score in the match after 4 games is 2-2 (one win, one
\   loss 2 draws)  2 games left, today and tomorrow, 3pm EST
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: K must be pleased here because he has basically equalized
\   with black already
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: this is a well known position - the variation was played,
\   or transposed into (I can't remember), in the 21st and last game of the
\   1972 Fischer - Spassky match, for exanmple  :-)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  6.  Nxc6                bxc6              
  7.  Bd3                 d5                
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: K is happy to equalize so fast - even if he can't win, he
\   can go for a win with white tomorrow
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  7.  Bd3                 d5                
  8.  exd5              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (cxd5 83%, Qe7+ 16%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  7.  Bd3                 d5                
  8.  exd5                cxd5              
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Although the position is = now, there is plenty of play
\   left - either side could win!
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: -0.05: Bd2 Qe7
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: 43.893 sec, 37077 nodes/sec, ply 9 15/33
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  8.  exd5                cxd5              
  9.  O-O               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (o-o 92%, Qe2+ 7%)
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (o-o 100%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  8.  exd5                cxd5              
  9.  O-O                 O-O               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Bg5 100%)
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: The postion is wide open and there are still 26 men on the
\   board... don't give Kasparov a draw so easily :)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  9.  O-O                 O-O               
 10.  Bg5               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (c6 72%, Be6 25%, Bxc3 2%)
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  9.  O-O                 O-O               
 10.  Bg5                 c6                
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Qf3 40%, Ne2 32%, Na4 27%)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: We already have several titled players here on ICC - GM
\   DaVinci, and IMs Thumpster and KarlBurger!
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 10.  Bg5                 c6                
 11.  Qf3               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Be7 47%, Bd6 45%, Qd6 6%)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: although the last game of the 1972 title match was a
\   Sicilian Kan/Paulsen, it transposed into a Scotch 4 Ns  :-)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: I think K is a slight favorite in this game
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: +0.02: Be7 Rfe1 Be6 Bf4 Re8 Rad1 c5
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: 28.711 sec, 38810 nodes/sec, ply 8 1/35
DaVinci(GM) kibitzes: Be7 is the most solid continuation, yet Bd6 is playable
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: FMs LaRota and chiacs are also here!
DaVinci(GM) kibitzes: Deep blue has a slight edge here
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: -0.15: Bxc3 bxc3 Re8 c4 Be6 Bxf6 Qxf6 Qxf6 gxf6 cxd5
\   cxd5 c3 Rab8
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 10.  Bg5                 c6                
 11.  Qf3                 Be7               
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (h3 44%, Rfe1 33%, Rae1 22%)
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: 142.865 sec, 41090 nodes/sec, ply 9 2/35
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: maybe there is some recent theory here - I always thought
\   this was roughly equal ...
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Is there something new here, GM DaVinci?  :-)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: black has an extra central pawn, but also has more pawn
\   islands than white
DaVinci(GM) kibitzes: Interesting plan begins with Ne2. The Knight, being
\   transferred to d4, may become very strong.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: white's pieces are a bit more active, at least for the
\   time being
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: -0.06: Rfe1 Be6 Ne2 Qb6 b3 Rae8 c4 dxc4 Bxc4 Nd5
ban(C)(DM) kibitzes: I had 11...h6 12. bf4 bd6 13.re1 rb8 14.na4 c5 15. b3 be6
\   16. h3 rb4 17. bxb qxb 18. rd1 rfc8 19. c3 rbb8 20. bf5 re8 = in Juniors
\   book
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: 11.Na4 was interesting, instead of 11.Qf3
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: 184.295 sec, 37751 nodes/sec, ply 9 4/51
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: to see the moves thus far, type moves 1
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 11.  Qf3                 Be7               
 12.  Rae1              
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: book moves (Be6 100%)
ban(C)(DM) kibitzes: rb8 +0.16
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: after 11.Na4, white has obtained a strong blockade on the
\   dark squares (especially d4 and c5) in some recent games
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: to my knowledge, 11.Qf3 is not considered to pose serious
\   problems for black
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: for ECO buffs, this position can be found in C47
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: this is not an anti-computer opening.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Right, Ferret, it is too "open" to be considered an
\   anti-computer opening
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 11.  Qf3                 Be7               
 12.  Rae1                Re8               
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: the main line here is eye-popping, and K avoids it
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: after 12... h6, ...
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: think crafty's out of book now...
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: i find it interesting that people wonder whether
\   kasparovs facial expressions and gestures are an example of "playing the
\   opponent", when against this computer he is not playing the opponent, he is
\   "playing the board".
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: d6-> 40.4s +0.378  Qg3 d4 Ne4 Be6 Nxf6+ Bxf6 Bf4
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: white usually plays 12... h6 13.B*h6!? g*h6 14.Qe3
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: To see the time on the clocks, do "time 1"
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: ... a wild piece sac in that line!
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: d7-> 1:55 +0.380  Qg3 Bd7 Re5 Qb8 a3 d4 Na4
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: 12... Re8 is not in ECO
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: IMs Kaufman and BadViking have now joined us
BadViking(IM) kibitzes: Hi Schroer
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Hi, IM BadViking!  :-)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: welcome to the commentary "booth"
JackStraw(DM) kibitzes: This is all book. Estevez-Rivera, Sagua la Grande 1988,
\   among others.
BadViking(IM) kibitzes: hi IM Schroer :-)
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: how did that game continue, JackStraw?
JackStraw(DM) kibitzes: 12...Re8 13.Rfe1 Be6 14.Ne2 +=, Radulov-Kovacs, Decin
\   1976.
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: d8-> 5:28 +0.317  Qg3 Be6 Bh6 Bf8 Re5 Qb6 Rg5 g6 Bxf8
\   Kxf8
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: hold on, that sounds a bit off, JS ...
JackStraw(DM) kibitzes: The evaluation += is from Gary Lane's book.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Rae1 has already been played
JackStraw(DM) kibitzes: So 13.Rae1 seems to be a TN, but not one that makes a
\   whole lot of sense. Of course computers are famous for fiddling with rooks
\   on the back rank.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: 12... Re8 is the TN, according to ECO, after 12.Rae1
Ferret(C)(DM) kibitzes: whereas humans prefer to fiddle with knight maneuvers.
BadViking(IM) kibitzes: Rfe1 seemed more natural to me, but I am only a
\   human...
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 12.  Rae1                Re8               
 13.  Ne2               
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 12.  Rae1                Re8               
 13.  Ne2                 h6                
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: Kasparov is probably happy with a draw today, so he can try
\   to win the whole match tomorrow with White.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: Wildbill informs me that Condie-Thomas 1986 continued
\   from here 13.Ne2 Ng4? 14.Bf4 Bf6 15.Ng3 Bd7 16.h3 Ne5 17.B*e5 B*e5 18.B*h7+
\   and white wins!
crafty(C)(DM) kibitzes: d7-> 35.8s -0.108  Qb6 b3 Bd7 Ng3 Bg4 Qf4 Qb4 
POTZY(DM) kibitzes: To see the time on the clocks, do "time 1".... clocks on
\   ICC don't run in "examined" games.
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: maybe 13... h6 is the TN
gsanchez(DM) kibitzes: h6 looks weakening
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: "TN" = Theoretical Novelty
ban(C)(DM) kibitzes: bf4 bc5 -0.3
Schroer(IM) kibitzes: this wide open type of position should favor the computer
\   over the human, but K has been playing into these all match!
BadViking(IM) kibitzes: What is the rook on f1 doing?
Move  *Deep-Blue          *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------