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KRAMNIK-KASPAROV Game 4, October 14, 2000.  Kramnik goes up a
knight, but only draws!  GM Tony Miles providing live analysis.

[Event "Brain Games World Championship Match"]
[Site "London, England"]
[Date "2000.10.14"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Kramnik"]
[Black "Kasparov"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
[Opening "QGA: classical, 6...a6"]
[ECO "D27"]
[NIC "QG.07"]
[Time "08:51:49"]
[TimeControl "7200+0"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 e6 4. e3 c5 5. Bxc4 a6 6. O-O Nf6 7. dxc5 Qxd1 8.
Rxd1 Bxc5 9. Nbd2 Nbd7 10. Be2 b6 11. Nb3 Be7 12. Nfd4 Bb7 13. f3 O-O 14. e4
Rfc8 15. Be3 Kf8 16. Nd2 Ne5 17. N4b3 Rc6 18. Rac1 Rac8 19. Rxc6 Rxc6 20. g4
h6 21. h4 Bc8 22. g5 hxg5 23. hxg5 Nfd7 24. f4 Ng6 25. Nf3 Rc2 26. Bxa6 Bxa6
27. Rxd7 Rxb2 28. Ra7 Bb5 29. f5 exf5 30. exf5 Re2 31. Nfd4 Re1+ 32. Kf2
Rf1+ 33. Kg2 Nh4+ 34. Kh3 Rh1+ 35. Kg4 Be8 36. Bf2 Ng2 37. Ra8 Rf1 38. Kf3
Nh4+ 39. Ke2 Rh1 40. Nb5 Bxg5 41. Nc7 Ke7 42. Nxe8 Nxf5 43. Bxb6 Kd7 44. a4
Rh3 45. Nc5+ Kc6 46. a5 Re3+ 47. Kd1 Re7 48. Rc8+ Kb5 49. Ne4 Rxe4 50. Rc5+
Ka6 51. Nc7+ Kb7 52. Rxf5 Be3 53. Bxe3 Rxe3 54. Rxf7 Re5 55. a6+ Kb6 56.
Rxg7 Ra5 57. Kd2 Ra1 58. Kc2 Rh1 59. Kb2 Rh8 60. Kb3 Rc8 61. a7 Kxa7 62. Kb4
Kb6 63. Nd5+ Ka6 64. Rg6+ Kb7 65. Kb5 Rc1 66. Rg2 Kc8 67. Rg7 Kd8 68. Nf6
Rc7 69. Rg5 Rf7 70. Nd5 Kd7 71. Rg6 Rf1 72. Kc5 Rc1+ 73. Kd4 Rd1+ 74. Ke5
{Game drawn by mutual agreement}
1/2-1/2

TonyM(GM)[1] kibitzes: Gday!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Todays big excitement is whether they start in 10 mins,
\   or an hour later as advertised on the braingames site...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: can usually rely on braingames being wrong..  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I doubt it
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: The opening choice wil be interesting
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: personally I think Kasp should be solid with B
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nimzo or Slav say
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but its not his nature
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and that may well cost him the match
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: when start?
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kramnik likes things with a big centre
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: KI or Grunfeld
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I do expect him to try the  Grunfeld again
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: just dont think it is the right choice for tghis
\   opponenet
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: opponent
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup   Catalan is part of Kram s repertoire
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it will be interesting to see where they diverge
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Guess the Move!  Tell me your predictions before
\   each move.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kram has certainly won the preparation battle so far
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Yes..  I agree..  but with White!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Gazzas combative nature means  he will try to  make the
\   Grunfeld work
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: would be a psychological blow to abandon his first
\   choice so soon
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I havent played the Grunf for 20 years or so  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kasps nature is to hit back immediately
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but he failed yesterday
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a rare event!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not sure how his mood will be
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: apart from 1 game against Anand he hasnt been behind in 
\   a match for many years
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: we will soon see....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: mmm.... yes Keats
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ehhehehehh
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: London Gil
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 1.d4:  PerrinAybara
\   BallisticKnight rgadoury C-Jones Sephirot Charrua guest699 killerqueen
\   clownfish  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 1...d5:  guest699  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 1...d5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  1.  d4                  d5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: aha!!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Hehas given up the Grunfeld!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Wise choice I think
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 2.c4:  OrionsKnight
\   Campomanes guest1321  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 2...dxc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  1.  d4                  d5                
  2.  c4                  dxc4              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Cant remember Gazza ever playing this!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think Vlad usually plays e4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nf6 then is very  sharp
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: would be a real fight

TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: also e3 and the Bb3 stuff
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: as W a point up  I think I would duck e4
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 3.Nf3:  guest699 KingDan
\   Romanski Sephirot Charrua  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: indeed King
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 3...e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  2.  c4                  dxc4              
  3.  Nf3                 e6                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hence...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 3...e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  2.  c4                  dxc4              
  3.  Nf3                 e6                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 4.e3:  guest699 guest658
\   fweep  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 4...c5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  3.  Nf3                 e6                
  4.  e3                  c5                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 5.Bxc4:  Junk  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 5...a6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  4.  e3                  c5                
  5.  Bxc4                a6                
Game 1: DaveTheBrave moves: Nf6
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  5.  Bxc4                a6                
  6.  O-O                 Nf6               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 6...Nf6:  guest699  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont thionk he is that scared!

Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 6...Nf6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  5.  Bxc4                a6                
  6.  O-O                 Nf6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 is the old move
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bb3 and Bd3 have both had phases of popularity lately
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ditto e4
Game 1: DaveTheBrave moves: Qxd1
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  6.  O-O                 Nf6               
  7.  dxc5                Qxd1              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 7...Qxd1:  Junk SJLIM
\   guest699  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this  is not the choice of Kasp in fighting mood
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 7...Qxd1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  6.  O-O                 Nf6               
  7.  dxc5                Qxd1              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 8.Rxd1:  Junk guest699
\   OrionsKnight fweep Kueh mhansen Romanski seanReed  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 8...Bxc5:  Junk guest699 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this is not the choice of anyone in fighting mood!!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 9.Nbd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  8.  Rxd1                Bxc5              
  9.  Nbd2              
brook(IM)[2] kibitzes: then you dont understand the QGA
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Vlad going for 1 win and 15 draws???

TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the pieces work better with b3 and Bb2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Non c3 would block the Bb2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W is fractionally better
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and Gazza wont like it
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bs plan is get the bits out and draw
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W hopes to make a6 a slight waste of time
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bk is fine on e7
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: white has a small lasting edge, just like Kramnik wants
\   it against GK
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: b5 Be2 and a4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: with a little play on the Q side
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so B may prefer b6
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: Four games and not one middlegame with queens on, this
\   may be Kramnik's main anti GK plan: NO QUEENS
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: sometimes it can be useful to have e7 for the Bc5 to
\   retreat to
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 9...Nbd7:  KingDan Campomanes
\   guest658  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 9...Nbd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  8.  Rxd1                Bxc5              
  9.  Nbd2                Nbd7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: keeping his options open
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: b3 next
Game 1: DaveTheBrave moves: b6
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  9.  Nbd2                Nbd7              
 10.  Be2                 b6                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: b3 would be a poor sq for the N
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 10...b6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
  9.  Nbd2                Nbd7              
 10.  Be2                 b6                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Be2 frees c4 for the Nd2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hitting the soft d6 square

thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Still following Kramnik-Karpov
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nc4 Ke7 a3
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: bothering the Bc5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no King
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the best sqs for the W pieces are Nc4 and Bf3 eventaully
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nc4 Ne4!?
Darooha(DM)[2] kibitzes: the only way to eliminate draws from chess is to
\   change the rules of chess itself.  Such as make stalemate a loss, or, if a
\   repetition occurs, the player with more pieces on the board wins.
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 11.Nb3:  Oscar brut  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well.... imposible to predict anything but a draw from
\   this  start
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 11.Nb3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 10.  Be2                 b6                
 11.  Nb3               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 11...Be7:  SJLIM  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: if Gazza cant hold this he may as well give up
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: curious choice Nb3
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 11...Be7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 10.  Be2                 b6                
 11.  Nb3                 Be7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I just said b3 was a bad sq for the N
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 12.Nfd4:  Junk Charrua
\   GmShackel  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: guess he wants Nfd4 and BF3
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nibbling c6
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 12...Bb7:  Charrua  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 12...Bb7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 11.  Nb3                 Be7               
 12.  Nfd4                Bb7               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 13.f3:  Charrua  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not a credible winning try tho..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bf3 OOO!?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the Bc1 is a problem
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: = Bareev-Rublevsky 1996
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: really Tomas?  How did it go?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ws plan is to dump a N on c6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bd2 Bf3 Rc1....
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 13.f3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 12.  Nfd4                Bb7               
 13.  f3                
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: slight edge for white, be interesting to see if
\   Kramnik is going to coast to an early draw or fight hard and try to press
\   GK
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ok  so I dont understand these positions!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this really looks like nothing to me
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f3 blunts the Bb7
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: prepares Be3
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but OO and Rc8 looks = to me
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I still dont like that N on b3
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: This has been played before, in case some one has not
\   already mentioned that!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it has no future
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: It was a =
gringo(FM)[2] kibitzes: Black's position seems more active!
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Draw
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 13...O-O:  fweep Junk
\   OrionsKnight Dmitrovski ChessCrawler Oscar Packman Charrua Lasdor  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes Spassky
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wasting a lot of time with trhe Ns tho
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 14.e4:  SJLIM Junk fweep
\   guest1432 Charrua Dmitrovski Packman OrionsKnight Campomanes  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 14.e4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 13.  f3                  O-O               
 14.  e4                
gringo(FM)[2] kibitzes: ...Rac8
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Rublevsky played Rfc8 here
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: * yawn...*   Rfc8 Kf8-e8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: very equal to me
gringo(FM)[2] kibitzes: Both players are extremely tough1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: doesnt feel like anyone is trying today
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Rfc8 + Kf8 was played in the Rublecky game
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe Kramnik wants to wait for Gazza to overreach!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: there are no invasion squars on the d file
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: only d6 is a little soft

TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but the WNs have moved away from it
gringo(FM)[2] kibitzes: Be3 putting pressure on b6 and if ...b5 then the knight
\   can enter on a5
Tlaloc(IM)[2] kibitzes: to 2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Be3 of course
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but b6 is guarded
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B can swap Rs on the c file
gringo(FM)[2] kibitzes: b6 is a potential weak point in black's position
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the WNs have no squares
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: there are only one set of pieces off
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Be2 is not great , but Bb7 also restricted
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: tonym, has Kasparov already equalised in your opinion?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B will centralise his Rs and bring his K over
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: to be ready to protect the d file
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I think that if white wants a draw you'll see both
\   rooks get exchanged on the c file; if white retains one rook that is more
\   aggressive
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: actually I have no idea what W does after Be3 and Rac1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no pawn advance looks worth bothering with
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: the best plan I can see is a long term pawn squeeze on
\   the kingside, g4, h4, h5 after due prep
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: wierd I say it and then see it on the webcam
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and Nd2-c4 looks slow
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but I dont see anything better
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he may be regretting not playing Shirov at the moment!
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: my best guess draw 90% win 10%
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but B will noyt use c5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the Nb3 is dominated by the b6 pawn
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: Kaspy was looking for a real fight, isolated pawn
\   position, double-edged play... and this is what Kramnik gives him, the
\   fourth endgame in as many games
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: 10% chance of win for white; white is better. black
\   only wins if white overpressess
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ther is no reason for B to play b5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the P is excellentlt placed on b6
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: Kramnik exhanged the queens, usually QGA results in
\   lively play
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wite will have to play Nd2-c4 and Nd4-b3 to make it move
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 14...Rfc8:  Junk GmShackel
\   Dmitrovski Packman MestreDosMagos guest1432 baffka  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and after a4 Anat?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: if a5 b5
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 14...Rfc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 13.  f3                  O-O               
 14.  e4                  Rfc8              
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: 7.Bd3, 7.Bb3, 7.Qe2 and few others lead to very
\   double-edged play, and these are the main lines, the queen exchange is
\   considered rather boring and equal
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: trouble witha K side advance is that f4 would weken e4
\   too much
Architect(FM)[2] kibitzes: I find it interesting that Kramnik seazes the first
\   opportunity to trade the queens.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and g4 h4 doesnt go anywhere much
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: good question
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B wants to use his K  f8-e8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and doesnt envisage anything happening on the d file
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: Kramnik thinks he can go 16 games w/o a loss, otherwise I
\   dont understand his non-ambitious choice of opening
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well....   the only danger can come at d6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so the K is ready to go to e7
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 15.Be3:  flint fweep Junk
\   scriabin DrsP guest1432 wiin Palikari Romanski baffka Packman snakefinger
\   Campomanes guest889 connected Epidemiology pawnfish ibis ChessCrawler
\   guest1218 Chessmaster1-1 wolff Charlie92 Hengist Dmitrovski Charrua
\   deadduck ex-nihilo grandcapi guest1695 Lefoin atep (
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: also  if W does try to press b6 Rab8 may come in handy
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: one would expect Rs to disappear on the c file tho
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 15.Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 14.  e4                  Rfc8              
 15.  Be3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so it shouldnt matter which goes to c8 first
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: perhaps W can try to double on the d file
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but then Kf8-e8 guards d7
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 15...Kf8:  Junk scriabin
\   Dmitrovski JeffB GmShackel WisconsinJoe baffka VTR guest456 snakefinger
\   TimDC Charlie92  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and bb4 will be annoying
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 15...Kf8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 14.  e4                  Rfc8              
 15.  Be3                 Kf8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 doesnt seem to do much to me
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: just weakens b4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kf2 Rac1 or maybe a3 or Nd2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: g4 h6 doesnt achieve anything either
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems that way to me too Pump
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: 45  huh..  that went on a long time
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B can indeed consider g6 and e5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W would have to prepare a flight sq for the Nd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hence Rc1 I guess
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: almost indecent??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: good for crafty
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: fritz sounds better than crafty then
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: g4 is the interesting try, could get us a better game
\   to watch
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: most kind scorp...  dont drink coffee tho  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: g4 doesnt have much point
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: after h6the dark sqs may become weak
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ok  some sense in that pali
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: g4 h6 h4 Ne5 maybe
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: protecting g6
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 16.Nd2:  Romanski
\   OrionsKnight  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 16.Nd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 15.  Be3                 Kf8               
 16.  Nd2               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I've been looking at rd2 with the idea that white
\   doubles on the d file and black doubles on the c file ; wasn't wild about
\   it
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: heading for c4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne5 possibly
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: then N4b3
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so perhaps Rab8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and if Nc4 Ba8
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup  Thats the idea HJ
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: b5 is also a thought now the Nb3 has moved
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but a4 and Nb3-a5 may be a nibble
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I wonder how deeply Vlad has prepared this line
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe Bc5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: guarding b6 and thinking about b5 and maybe e5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and freeing e7 for the king
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: e5 now gives W the f5 am=nd d5 sqs later
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nb3 Rc4 Nc4!?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc2 Nc4 I mean
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: oops orry!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rb1 Kf1 first!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a R on c2 doesnt achieve tioo much
Saopaulo(FM)[2] kibitzes: tonym do you think all here is prepared?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and B would regret e5 later
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: True, Imanogood, but buggy!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: my evaluation will always be equal til someone does
\   something really silly..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe w has a temporary tiny nibble tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bc5 NC4 with a3 to follow maybe
POTZY(DM)[1] kibitzes: "ob 1" is the current position.  "ob 2" is the analysis
\   board with GM Tony Miles.  "set kib 2" to see only titled comments.  "set
\   kib 1" to see everyone's comments.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup Lobster?  what happened next?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W would vaguely like to trade B sq Bs and pop a N on d6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not es=asy to accomplish tho
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I think white's goal is to provoke ...b5 without
\   moving his own queenside pawns. It's not unusual to see a3/b4 vs. a6/b5
\   pawn structures which are drawish. Kramnik is trying to keep more options
\   open by not fixing his queenside pawns. Still think a short draw is pretty
\   likely...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hehehehhh  Clearly they consider the game too dull to
\   bother with!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: less falco!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hadnt heard that one dir
Kastor(IM)[2] kibitzes: hi tony what do you think that desire kasparov playing
\   QG acepted?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe decline to lose too
Kastor(IM)[2] kibitzes: he waana avoid opening preparation or what?
Kastor(IM)[2] kibitzes: wanna
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: on the webcam: kasparov is shaking the head, he
\   seems very unhappy
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc7 Nc4 R8c8 frees  a8 in preparation for b5 Na5
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: very nervous
Playboy(FM)[2] kibitzes: when the game starts every day? (Eastern time...)
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: kramnik is not on the seat
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: which brain??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems to be a shortage today
Playboy(FM)[2] kibitzes: thanks
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Im rubbing...  dont notice any effect yet,,
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: apparently we are following a Bareev game
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so one would expect Vlad to have an idea somewhere
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but I cant believe it will be serious..
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I think Kramnik has done a great job of not giving GK
\   any middlegames that are to his taste. This is not the type of chess that
\   GK loves, doesn't mean he isn't great at this (he's great at everything),
\   but this is not what he loves
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well  There is some truth in that
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the longer Kasp fails to equalise the more angry he gets
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and more likely to do something silly
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: must do Ian.  butits beyond me  :)
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: Petrosian played out many dull positions against
\   Botvinnik in their match aiming to "wear out" the older Botvinnik. Wonder
\   if Kramnik has similiar thoughts about the "older" GK?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: gone to look for his brain..  ??
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 16...Ne5:  mhansen flint
\   Romanski geoid99 stealyourqueen Hengist Dito OrionsKnight grandcapi ganja
\   pedersen guest1378 kassy fluffybunny Stone1  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 16...Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 15.  Be3                 Kf8               
 16.  Nd2                 Ne5               
fishWY(WIM)[2] kibitzes: yes
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: uh.. Me??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: N4b3
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: would hate to play f4/e5 ideas unless they are very
\   clear, don't want to let the bb7 come alive!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: does he want t play Bd8??
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 17.N4b3:  pedersen Romanski
\   ToreF kajjohan Packman  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc6 also posible
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 17.N4b3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 16.  Nd2                 Ne5               
 17.  N4b3              
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: possible draw by repetition
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 17...Rc6:  pedersen ganja
\   KINGSKNIGHTSRUS grandcapi ToreF Seu-Madruga LiveOak south-saturn guest1378
\   Zarathustra  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 17...Rc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 16.  Nd2                 Ne5               
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hard for W to hit b6 any harder
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Krammnik's style for Kasparov is to play simple, not
\   too adventurous. let Kasparov make concessions for attack!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: its a tacless position
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nd4, Rc8.......
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nd4 Rc7 Nb3 draw
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: f4 and if Neg4 Bd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f4 Ned7 is possible
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: then e4 is weak
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and e5 Nd5 nothing
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: then RC7 mini
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: RC1 Rc8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: going nowhere
Diesen(IM)[2] whispers: white may not have anything but I think this kind of
\   chess bores Kasparov ( and Fischer too ! )
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: they will agree a da=raw photo
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: nd4, rc7; nb3, rc6 etc could be the end
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: we may well  academy/
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: what does team Finegold think about this pos ? lol
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hmmm  The Chess is a sport campaign is really suffering
\   today
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: webcam often shows analysis
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Paint driers clearly winning...
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: maybe rc1, rc8; rxc6, rxc6; rc1 rxc1; nxc1 lets white
\   play on but I don't believe that it is any sort of real winning try.
\   game 3....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes  I imagine he was surprised
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it would IT  it would
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he does seem to be the opponent with the least respect
\   for him
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he isnt going to try today
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: tomorrow!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it is realistic at least
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think Kramnik is trying to put Gazza under
\   psychological pressure to make the games exciting
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hoping he will overreach
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: tomorrow
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nd4 Rd6!?
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: so who thinks GK will avoid the Berlin tomorrow? Or
\   will he take a third try at beating it?
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nd4 Rd6!
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I have the feeling that Kramnik is hoping for the
\   Scotch; I suspect he's done heavy prep against that opening
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: apparently not mju
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ned7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: doesnt look like nuch
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 16.  Nd2                 Ne5               
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: bit boring I am afraid..
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: clocks are accurate
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ned7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: confirmed
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
 19.  Nc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rac8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rac1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
 20.  Rac1              
Game 2: TonyM moves: b5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
 20.  Rac1                b5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nca5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  Rac1                b5                
 21.  Nca5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  Rac1                b5                
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
 22.  Nxc1              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ba8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
 22.  Nxc1                Ba8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  Nxc1                Ba8               
 23.  a4                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  Nxc1                Ba8               
 23.  a4                  Bb4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and zzzzzzzzz
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  Nxc1                Ba8               
 23.  a4                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
 22.  Nxc1                Ba8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
 22.  Nxc1              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  Rac1                b5                
 21.  Nca5                Rxc1              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  Rac1                b5                
 21.  Nca5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
 20.  Rac1                b5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
 20.  Rac1              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
 19.  Nc4                 Rac8              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
 19.  Nc4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4                 Ned7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 16.  Nd2                 Ne5               
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: commentators: "I think at the moment Kasparov is
\   quite happy"
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: my contract says I have to move some pieces once an hour
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: its hard tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: true It  very true
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 18.Rac1:  Campomanes
\   PerrinAybara flint Forkball guest456 Hengist whitecastle MestreDosMagos
\   Tactics Romanski pawnfish Pericles Packman VTR Charlie92 scriabin
\   Krukkemans GmShackel guest2364 SheikYerbouti vkop stealyourqueen JeffB
\   ex-nihilo WJM connected guest1371 jemha  (Tell GuessTheMove
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 18.Rac1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Rac1              
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: observe 2 for analysis
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think the tacit draw offer was dxc5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think thats coz they both eat garlic before play
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 18...Rac8:  OrionsKnight
\   jemha MestreDosMagos pedersen south-saturn Romanski Junk grandcapi Tactics
\   Hengist guest1218 BrazilianMaster snakefinger flint bscoder Miskas
\   Dmitrovski babyboy ChessDogg horsey PrincessChess mardoy guest925 Packman
\   PerrinAybara Sephirot guest2364 Pericles  (Tell G
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 18...Rac8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 17.  N4b3                Rc6               
 18.  Rac1                Rac8              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: vk must have something - he would't just waste his
\   whites
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont think this will last much longer
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ob 1 wookie
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: here's where match tactics come in -- will there be a
\   quick handshake or will Kramnik play this out to move 40 or beyond?
greg1(IM)[2] kibitzes: if white just exchanges all the rooks, isn't it a tiny
\   edge for white because of the loose black queenside pawns?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no real edge for anyone
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: sorry, we wait for official confirmation on ANY
\   move
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 19.Rxc6:  Junk Hengist flint
\   Packman grandcapi Miskas MeanCow Romanski mardoy bscoder guest1487
\   OrionsKnight guest2364 pedersen babyboy Seu-Madruga PerrinAybara
\   PrincessChess Title26 guest1218  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not on my board they havent!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 19...Rxc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 18.  Rac1                Rac8              
 19.  Rxc6                Rxc6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ah
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Feb huh?  Must have missed that one..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it equalises pet..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: as does everything else
DaveTheBrave(DM)[1] kibitzes: drop this issue in kibitzes please.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: any relation of Miss Piggy Pink??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: .  my heroine  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: sad...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no advantage at all
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Gazza doesnt like it either
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: if Bd4 Ned7
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: e5 would only be weakening
greg1(IM)[2] kibitzes: mmmm....yes, really it is hard to imagine kramnik
\   actually winning the match.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup  It will come very soon
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: NO  Actually if it was fixed they woulsd make it much
\   more exciting
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: excellent question Petardo
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: some people do Caissa
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but you should ask Kasparov Pet
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hard to believe Almost
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 20.g4:  grandcapi pulp ganja 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
greg1(IM)[2] kibitzes: who predicted g4?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: personally I would find Shirov more watchable than
\   anyone
DaveTheBrave set *Kramnik's clock to 00:59:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Rxc6                Rxc6              
 20.  g4                
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 20.g4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Rxc6                Rxc6              
 20.  g4                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hmm  Odd
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: cool, this shows that Kramnik is not looking for a
\   quick draw and that he wants a fight
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: he's playing to win!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a few draws ...  one win one loss I think
greg1(IM)[2] kibitzes: we are in trouble frisconnick when kramnik is playing
\   ala fritz
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: h6 h4 I presume
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not much point to g4 else
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: they go home ocho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hardly ever f4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: weakens e4 and brings Bb7 to life
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: good q Fut
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe just to majke Gazza work a bit
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kf2 is always sensible
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: g4 can be weakening of course
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I think this is showing Kramnik's match tactics
\   (similiar to Petrosian play against Botvinnik) with no short draws and play
\   out all positions
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc2 is aroubnd of course
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but Bb6 Rb2 Bd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: is a minor problem
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont think he is really trying
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: just trying to establish a psychological edge by pushing
\   Gazza around a little biyt
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dont Know,  but  g4 looks like a way to decline one  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: its not really risky yet
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but if h4 comes B can try to play Ng6 Nh7 gettibg the
\   dark sqs
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: looking at h6/g5/ng6 ideas for black playing on the
\   black squares
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: never seen him Boo
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: how can I learn
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: actually I think he interviewed me once
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: didnt seem terribly bright
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 20...h6:  south-saturn Roven
\   PrincessChess Owen28 Pericles guest2364 pedersen Seu-Madruga llucky
\   GunSlinger OrionsKnight mardoy Hengist Packman Sephirot Romanski Dito aroc
\   ganja grandcapi  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well...  I am sometimes...  like now  :)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 20...h6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 19.  Rxc6                Rxc6              
 20.  g4                  h6                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 21.h4:  pedersen Junk Dito
\   grandcapi ex-nihilo JFQ Pericles Sephirot Conquistidor guest665 guest2364
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TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so h4 for g5..  or h3 for f4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I expect h4 I guess
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 21.h4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: indeed
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this is quite double edged
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: in a boring sort of way  :)
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: this whole g4/h4 idea unbalances the position; still
\   drawish but less drawish
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ng6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: g5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
 22.  g5                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 21...Bc8:  guest665 Title26
\   grandcapi guest2499 guest668 pedersen guest318 KINGSKNIGHTSRUS Seu-Madruga 
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Game 2: TonyM moves: hxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: hxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nh5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nh5               
 24.  Nc4               
Zek set *Kasparov's clock to 00:58:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                  Bc8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ngf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nh5               
 24.  Nc4                 Ngf4              
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: would have thought a real long time before playing
\   bc8, seems awkward somehow
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: messy at lleast
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nh5               
 24.  Nc4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nh5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
 22.  g5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: amazing to me is how quickly GK played bc8; not an
\   obvious decision to me at all
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                  Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: g5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ke8               
 22.  g5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: hxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 21.  h4                  Ke8               
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: hxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
Playboy(FM)[2] kibitzes: how to make the real player work on the braingmes
\   page?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe safer
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 21...Bc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 20.  g4                  h6                
 21.  h4                  Bc8               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 22.g5:  Dito guest1101
\   guest2364 Junk bfritz guest665 guest2251 grandcapi  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: taking the sting out of Na5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and protecting d7
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 22...hxg5:  guest2364
\   grandcapi Junk  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 23.hxg5:  guest665 clyde52 
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TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so that g5 and f4 will lose its effect
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 23.hxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 23...Nfd7:  Junk Hengist 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 23...Nfd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes  Presumably f4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc2 now more possible
Game 2: TonyM moves: f4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ng6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Kf2                 Rc2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: e5 is possible
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5              
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 22.  g5                  hxg5              
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
Game 2: Game in progress
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: still feels = but getting more interesting. At least
\   it's turning into a fight!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W has some space  but that shouldnt matter much
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not enough pieces for cramp to be important
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wanna bet killer??
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  Nd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  Nd4                 Rc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  Nd4                 Rc7               
 25.  Kf2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: to give the option of Rh1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and guard c2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f4 yes...  f5 less likely
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: at least in the immediate future
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ill take the draw killer
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes Hokkie
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 24.f4:  guest845 Junk
\   ex-nihilo clyde52 Miskas flint Psy Creative-Doc Volkisch Hengist vkop
\   Sephirot guest2364 Romanski llucky guest1301 bio-witty Seu-Madruga oldie
\   bfritz juul ledoc Lasker27y siska BoltChesset guest2251 OrionsKnight baffka
\   peteleco DeathsDoor guest665 The-Cleaner Title (T
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and avoid Na5
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 24.f4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 24...Ng6:  Miskas guest2364
\   Junk OrionsKnight RS ChessDogg bio-witty guest665 guest845 Hengist Psy
\   KelviSh flint  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 24...Ng6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bh5....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W must be careful of e5 and Nf4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bh5 e5!?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bh5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Bh5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: e5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Bh5                 e5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: what?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxg6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Bh5                 e5                
 26.  Bxg6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Bh5                 e5                
 26.  Bxg6                exf4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Bh5                 e5                
 26.  Bxg6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Bh5                 e5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Bh5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Rd2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: bit yawnish again
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: e5 weakens f5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so Nh4-f5
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 25.Nf3:  Volkisch Zavros
\   guest665 grossmeister Ulysses  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 25.Nf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc2 looks likely
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems to getthe Rs off
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: which favours black
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: And after rookexchange black plays Bd6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no worries with the h file
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well  Rc2 may take care of Ba6
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: still think a few accurate moves can equalize, but I
\   suspect that GK is starting to spend some time thinking if there are any
\   ways to turn this in Black's favor...
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
 29.  Ra8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
 30.  Nfd4              
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: f5! please
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
 30.  Nfd4                Rc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nfd4                Rc4               
 31.  Nb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: some problemms uyes
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
 30.  Nfd4                Rc4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
 30.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
 29.  Ra8                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
 29.  Ra8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bc8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: Game in progress
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so  Ke8?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 23.  hxg5                Nfd7              
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
Tzerminator(IM)[2] kibitzes: aloso interesting is  after rc2 bd3 rxb2 bb1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: true Tzerm
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but prob Bb7 is ok
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  Bd4                 Nxf4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: black has no weaknesses tho
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: where is the webcam?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  f5                  exf5              
 27.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nge5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  f5                  exf5              
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
 28.  Nxe5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
 28.  Nxe5                Nxe5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nxe5                Nxe5              
 29.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: f6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nxe5                Nxe5              
 29.  Bd4                 f6                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nxe5                Nxe5              
 29.  Bd4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
 28.  Nxe5                Nxe5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
 28.  Nxe5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  f5                  exf5              
 27.  exf5                Nge5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  f5                  exf5              
 27.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
 26.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this is the position
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: If Gazza doesnt hit back very quickly I favour Kramnik
JackStraw(DM)[2] kibitzes: Does anyone have a question they'd like to ask the
\   players in the post-game conference? I'm here for about 2 minutes. Tell
\   Jackstraw your question.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe an edbe mini
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: edge
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: http://213.11.93.71/cwsite/html/d/diagobraingamestv/defa
\   ult.htm
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but I really dont believe it will ever be serious
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ta!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: e5 f5 Nf4 Bf1 threatens Ne5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bf4 ef e5 also interesting
micheliavelli(IM)[2] kibitzes: just logged in will kramnik specialize in
\   middlegames without queens in this match ?:-)
JackStraw(DM)[2] kibitzes: Don't forget there is another game tomorrow! First
\   back-to-back championship games in over half a century!\
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think Kasparov is a lot less happy without Qs
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not much memmi
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: notas far as I know Bron
JackStraw(DM)[2] kibitzes: Have to return to work. If you have questions for
\   the players, message Jackstraw. I'll try to check in later. Enjoy the game!
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: what tatiana?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ke8 still looks likely
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: We will do our best!
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: For those who just joined, the game was uneventful until
\   Kramnik advanced his Kingside pawns in the last few moves, cramping Black.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: giving Ng6 f8 retreat and maybe preparing Nc5
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: Now the threat is Bxa6 Bxa6 Rxd7
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kasp  hasnt played that many endings
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: usually wins early
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: opening prep...
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: one idea is
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bd3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bd3                 Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bd3                 Rxb2              
 27.  Bb1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bd3                 Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bd3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but I like
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: intending Ra7-a8
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bd2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bd2                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bd2                 Ke8               
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bd2                 Ke8               
 29.  Ra7                 Bc4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not sure...
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bd2                 Ke8               
 29.  Ra7               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 25...Rc2:  ChessDogg Miskas
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\   grossmeister alib Dreamy2 VTR Hengist boubou flint Roven giul WillThrash
\   ENTERTEINER Whizpig guest1977 Pericles Schachpatzer Krukkemans guest318 
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Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bd2                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bd2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: feels dangerous for B
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 25...Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: set kib 1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hmmm...  we shall see!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: Rd2... why give black active play with Bxa6 Bxa6 Rxd7
\   Rxb2?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rb2 looks bad
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: we have a game
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I would still bet on a draw tho  :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kram can always kill it with RD2 if he is at all worried
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: afraid of kaspy's bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb's ?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ???
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
 30.  Kh1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
 31.  Bxf2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
 32.  Rxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
 32.  Rxa6                Rxf3              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Rxa6                Rxf3              
 33.  Ra8+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: shrug..
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
 32.  Rxa6                Rxf3              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
 32.  Rxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
 31.  Bxf2                Rxf2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
 31.  Bxf2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
 30.  Kh1                 Nf2+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
 30.  Kh1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7                 Nh3+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 25...Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 24.  f4                  Ng6               
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ba6 looks worth a try to me
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B needs a good move here
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Rd2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe B can hold a p down
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the Bs are good
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7                 Ke8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: probably ok
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: valid point  :)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Nc6                 Ke8               
 30.  Ra7               
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: If Rc1, Then Rxc1 Bac1.  If Rd2, then Rxd2 Bxd2.  White
\   would rather have his B on d2 than c1.  So Rc1 is not as good as Rd2.
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6                 Ke8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6                 Bb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: still not clear
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Nc6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Bc1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxa2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Bc1                 Rxa2              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: sorry?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Bc1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ah
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ok
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: troublesome..
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
 30.  Nxc5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: bxc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
 30.  Nxc5                bxc5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nxc5                bxc5              
 31.  Nc6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
 30.  Nxc5                bxc5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
 30.  Nxc5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7                 Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
 28.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Be2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: might be ok
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nbd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Nbd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
 31.  Kh1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
 32.  Bc7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: or not...
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
morsa(FM)[1] kibitzes: www.braingames.net
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2                 Rh4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nh2                 Rh4               
 34.  Nf3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2                 Rh4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
andante(FM)[1] kibitzes: bd6
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
 34.  Bd6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxd6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
 34.  Bd6+                Bxd6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxg4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Bd6+                Bxd6              
 35.  Nxg4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Bd6+                Bxd6              
 35.  Nxg4                Bc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ???
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Bd6+                Bxd6              
 35.  Nxg4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
 34.  Bd6+                Bxd6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
 34.  Bd6+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2                 Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
 33.  Nh2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
 32.  Bc7                 Rg4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
 32.  Bc7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
 31.  Kh1                 Be8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
 31.  Kh1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Nbd4                Rg2+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Nbd4              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: certainly ih has livened up a bit tho!
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Nxf4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
 31.  Nc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: still good for W
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
 29.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 26.Bxa6:  Seu-Madruga
\   Equity-Trader Hengist Whizpig guest842 BrazilianMaster joecat28 Ulysses
\   bfritz Smok Volkisch Junk Qsupov MestreDosMagos KristjanThorn grandcapi
\   pawnflogger aroc guest665 Knife riface plambeck mardoy C-Jones Foe-hammer
\   Nc3-4Me WillThrash VTR LionQueen Pericles Zedward
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this looks like the critical moment
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ba6 has been played!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxa6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 25.  Nf3                 Rc2               
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no esay wqay out for black
POTZY(DM)[1] kibitzes: 10 moves ago people were saying this game was boring....
MSK(GM)[2] kibitzes: what is up today
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Re2               
 28.  Bxb6                Rxb2              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 26...Bxa6:  JeffB
\   WisconsinJoe joecat28 grandcapi Smok mardoy Junk guest2764 MestreDosMagos
\   Therube Seu-Madruga Ulysses bio-witty C-Jones Watauba brujula Hengist
\   Whizpig pawnflogger BrazilianMaster  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: whats the point here?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Bxb6                Rxb2              
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 27.Rxd7:  mardoy WisconsinJoe
\   brujula bio-witty Smok grandcapi JHains2 guest1218 Photomaster joecat28 VTR
\   pedersen Seu-Madruga Amorphis C-Jones BoltChesset Hengist Eraser1 Charlie92
\   Junk Whizpig guest2554 Ulysses flint Romanski fluffybunny Sephirot  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I see...  yes,  it helps that f4 is loose
leop(GM)[2] kibitzes: Be2 Rd2!?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Be3 protects f4, Now Nf4 is a threat
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
 31.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Ra8+                Be8               
 31.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  f5                  exf5              
 32.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  f5                  exf5              
 32.  exf5                Nf4               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 27...Rxb2:  WisconsinJoe
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TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hanging on...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 27...Rxb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
Finegold(IM)[1] kibitzes: game 1 is the game, and game 2 is analysis?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: whats the idea??
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
 30.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
 30.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  f5                  exf5              
 31.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  f5                  exf5              
 31.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  f5                  exf5              
 31.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
 30.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
 30.  f5                
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: How about Nfd4 in the game position, TonyM?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 stops Bb5 and Re2
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: Tony what do U think about the board position?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes  that is the prob...  but Re2 may save him
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: f5 will como sometime
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
andante(FM)[1] kibitzes: Ra7 Bb5 f5
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 28.Ra7:  MestreDosMagos Junk
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\   BooRadley guest845 Div-anand Sephirot smoothoperator brut boubou
\   whitecastle brujula maryhuana bio-witty SheikYer (
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and  Nd4..?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
andante(FM)[1] kibitzes: f5
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 looks good
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: Hi jongo
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 28...Bb5:  Ulysses Hengist
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Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: f5 looks strong.....
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 26.  Bxa6                Bxa6              
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
 29.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
 30.  Rxd8+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
 30.  Rxd8+               Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  Rxd8+               Ke7               
 31.  Rd2               
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Be2?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wins
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
 30.  Rxd8+               Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
 30.  Rxd8+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
 29.  Ra8+                Bd8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
 29.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Be2               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 28...Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bb5 played
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: After Bb5, f5, exf5 exf5, Re2..I think Nfd4 is good
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: ra7 and f5 blacks cramped
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4              
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 instead of bxb6
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
 34.  Kf3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
 34.  Kf3                 Be8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not 100% clear
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 28...Bb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: what about Nfd4 instead of Bxb6 Tony
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nbd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nbd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nbd4                Rxe3              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and then??
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: not Nbd4
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nbd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: yeah
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Rxe3              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Rxe3              
 32.  Nxb5              
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nxb5
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Ra8+
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: aha  sorry
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: is threat
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: :)
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Rxe3              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Kastor(IM)[1] kibitzes: f5 win no?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7               
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: 31 bxb6 ne5 32 nfd4 looks lik an extra pawn....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: looks like Rb2 was fishy
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ditto  Rc2
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: yeah....
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: Game in progress
Kastor(IM)[1] kibitzes: what say computers?
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f5 looks good
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: cant believe Nh8!!
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: hehe Nh8...like Beliavsky when he played Qh8 against
\   you in groningen Tony :)
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: black has to play re2 to avoid nh8?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but hard to see an alternative...
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg3                 Bd6+              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: almostdecent then nfd4
PrinceValiant(IM)[2] kibitzes: after Bxb6 is Nf4 possible ?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kg3               
Kastor(IM)[1] kibitzes: Re8 Be8 f5 exf5 exf5 Nh8 bb6
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: bxb6 before nfd4
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kg3                 Nxf5+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so not soooo  clear
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Kg2 instead of Kf2
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: bb6 then nfd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: also not clear bubba
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: amazing to me is just a few moves ago this position
\   was a long squeeze at best with slight winning chances. I don't have a clue
\   why GK wanted to play this line as opposed to just "holding" the position
\   with more normal moves earlier
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
 34.  Kf3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
 34.  Kf3                 Be8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: probably holdable
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
 34.  Kf3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2                 Nd3+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 33.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Heliopolitanus(IM)[1] kibitzes: not over yet
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: 32 nbd4 in previous line keeps g5 covered
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kg3                 Nxf5+             
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Tony?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kg3                 Nxf5+             
 35.  Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kg3                 Nxf5+             
 35.  Nxf5                Rxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Nxf5                Rxf5              
 36.  Nd4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Nxf5                Rxf5              
 36.  Nd4                 Bd6+              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 29.f5:  VTR andante ChessWise
\   Ulysses Miskas Hengist vkop Junk Bov saguni ImaNogood pedersen DaneelOlivaw
\   BrazilianMaster Tactics sydneyraj pawnfish ledoc Volkisch brut
\   damiandemetrius jbill GmShackel Yelideh Div-anand DefaultSwap mekong Kastor
\   Whizpig vipp-computers dal Cossin guest121 (T
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ok  for B
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 29.f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f5 played
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup...  livenin up!
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: Tony, can you tell me why Bc1 was not as strong as it
\   looks?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont believe Gazza wpould ever play Nh8  :)

   **ANNOUNCEMENT** from POTZY: KRAMNIK may have a winning advantage to take a
\   2 point lead in the match against Kasparov!  "ob 1" for the game.  "ob 2"
\   for the analysis by GM Tony Miles!

IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: 3 - 1 !!
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: methinks gazza foresaw Re2 line
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 29...exf5:  KristjanThorn
\   Junk Bov Smok Hengist pedersen VTR Ulysses Romanski Div-anand bfritz
\   BoltChesset Lasdor C-Jones Zavros chesslion LordCheck  (Tell GuessTheMove
\   your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 29...exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 30.exf5:  pedersen VTR Smok
\   Hengist Ulysses Junk scriabin  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 30.exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not much alternative Boo
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: GK has got to have some trick up his sleeve, I can't
\   believe that he can get pushed off the board in just a few moves from such
\   an opening...
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: 3 - 1 !!
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: ..re2 best of bad choice?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: best of no choice
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: dont think about it, just play Re2!!
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: either that or Kramnik is my new chess god
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: interesting thought..
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
 32.  Rc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
 32.  Rc7                 Be8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
 32.  Rc7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4              
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: waht about Nxc6 Nxc6 Ra8+ and Bxb6?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: but just fg Bf3 Ra8
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: helio high
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 Ne5 Nc6 Nc6 Ra8 and Bb6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: really?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dunno!
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 Ne5 Nc6 Nc6 Ra8 and Bb6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: just looking...  Bc6 not played
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: as far as I know
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no Ra8
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: Rc7 Bf3 Rc8 Bd8 fg6 wins
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
 32.  Nxc6              
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Re2
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Ne5               
 32.  Nxc6                Nxc6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nxc6                Nxc6              
 33.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nxc6                Nxc6              
 33.  Ra8+                Nd8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Ra8+                Nd8               
 34.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Ra8+                Nd8               
 34.  Bxb6                Ke8               
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: Tony what about my line?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: good for W..  but some holding chances
MSK(GM)[2] kibitzes: is that the game?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f + g pawns vulnerable
IndianKing(IM)[2] kibitzes: (for Bc6) Rc7 Bf3 Rc8 Bd8 fg6 wins
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: It seems to me that GK is getting outcalculated by
\   Kramnik in this match which is just hard for me to fathom. Nobody out
\   calculates GK!!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 30.exf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nbd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nbd4              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: is very sensible
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Kaspa will never ever play Nh8
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: why has noone done this against gk before?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: fxg6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
 32.  fxg6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: looks like a piece
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
 32.  fxg6                Bxf3              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  fxg6                Bxf3              
 33.  Rxf7+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
 32.  fxg6                Bxf3              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
 32.  fxg6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nbd4                Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
 31.  Nbd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Bc6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: Re2 Bd2
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: Bd2 Ne5 Nfd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no sickies allowed!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4              
leop(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bc5
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4                Bc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B has problems to solve
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Kaspa will lose again
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: what does crafty say??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
 33.  Nxd2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
 33.  Nxd2                Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nb3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nxd2                Bc5               
 34.  Nb3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nxd2                Bc5               
 34.  Nb3                 Nf3+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: aha!!
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nxd2                Bc5               
 34.  Nb3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
 33.  Nxd2                Bc5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
 33.  Nxd2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4                Rxd2              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 30...Re2:  TheGiver scriabin
\   BruceLee C-Jones Hengist pedersen Junk chesslion MestreDosMagos umdanimal
\   OldPhoenix Div-anand grandcapi pawnfish Ulysses VTR Therube urbie Bov
\   Photomaster Krukkemans deadwood ChessWise Ringwraith7 llucky Lasdor Smok
\   MinnesotaWild NIKAO guest1218 BoltChesset Br
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
 32.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bd2                 Ne5               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 30...Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: so  Bb6 sensible
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B maybe hanging on
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: tatoo ob 1
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and WK is exposed
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: careful analisis will show that white is winning
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont see a clear win..  but its close
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5               
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bb6 Nf4 Nbd4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but Bd6 almost
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5                 Bxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nc5                 Bxg5              
 34.  Nxg5              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: almostdecent 0.5 wins for vk....
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nc5                 Bxg5              
 34.  Nxg5                Rg2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Nxg5                Rg2+              
 35.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Nxg5                Rg2+              
 35.  Kf1                 Rxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kf1                 Rxg5              
 36.  Nd7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kf1                 Rxg5              
 36.  Nd7+                Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Nd7+                Ke7               
 37.  Bd8+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: :)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 30...Re2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5                 Bd6               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Nfd4
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Nc5                 Bd6               
 34.  Nd4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: messy!
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: computers are very good in positions like this, so far
\   haven't seen anything to add to what the computers are suggesting
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: ob 1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: still critical for B
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5                 Bd6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
 33.  Nc5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+                Be8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
 32.  Ra8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6                Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 27.  Rxd7                Rxb2              
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 28.  Ra7                 Bb5               
 29.  f5                  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5              
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 29.  f5                  exf5              
 30.  exf5                Re2               
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nfd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 31.Nfd4:  Junk Psy guest845
\   VTR MestreDosMagos Pigzilla Equity-Trader Title26 DefaultSwap JeffB
\   grandcapi  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nfd4 played!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kh2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kh2                 Bd6+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: where does the WK go?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kh2                 Bd6+              
 33.  Kh3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kh2                 Bd6+              
 33.  Kh3                 Rxe3+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kh2                 Bd6+              
 33.  Kh3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kh2                 Bd6+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kh2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 30.  exf5                Re2               
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 31...Re1+:  Mate-Maker Junk
\   Volkisch Hengist Depresto onslaught NEONIMZO MestreDosMagos Brian-Deegan
\   SheikYerbouti guest1218 Div-anand Romanski blunderfish flint Title26 ledoc
\   Ulysses melissa Knife daisuke  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Hey, Kramnik played my line...hope it is good
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 33.  Kf2               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 32.Kf2:  Hengist upsan
\   Div-anand Bov guest2364 Junk MattF  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 33.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 34.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 34.  Kg3                 Nxf5+             
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: Finegold += Kramnik
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I dont see Kram  s point yet..
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 32.Kf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 31.  Nfd4                Re1+              
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg3                 Bd6+              
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Rf1 Kg2 Nh4 Kh3
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: and Rh1
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 32...Rf1+:  Junk Knife
\   melissa guest845 Div-anand NEONIMZO Brian-Deegan chesslion pedersen VTR
\   guest2364 Hengist blunderfish guest925 tinycecil joecat28 WisconsinJoe
\   MestreDosMagos GallantKnight sinfe mekong guest1087 Tactics DefaultSwap
\   grandcapi C-Jones Volkisch flint MattF LittlePeasant
Game 1: Zek moves: Nh4+
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 32.  Kf2                 Rf1+              
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg3                 Bd6+              
 34.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg3                 Bd6+              
 34.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 35.  Kh3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 35.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
 36.  Kg4               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 33...Nh4+:  chesslion  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ah  Maybe this
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 34.Kh3:  Junk MestreDosMagos
\   Bov HYPNOTIST  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 34.Kh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kh3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 33.  Kg2                 Nh4+              
 34.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
 35.  Kg4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: still better for W
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B very passive
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
 36.  Bf2               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Are u kidding? White is winning!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nh4 and Be8 sick
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: +.6623845362
POTZY(DM)[1] kibitzes: crafty analysis in channel 211:  Do "+chan 211" to see
\   it.
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: if.be8 black's in shtuck her
Nh2(FM)[1] kibitzes: 1-0
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ng2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ng2 Nf3!
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: here
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: g2 is almost as bad as h8
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 34...Rh1+:  Bov pedersen
\   Brian-Deegan blunderfish Flipi OldPhoenix NorthernTiger Romanski mekong
\   bscoder guest2634 guest1087 Smok Creative-Doc NEONIMZO Ulysses brut
\   MeatKiller VTR guest827 Hengist Div-anand TheGiver guest1218 MestreDosMagos
\   guest845 guest2526 Packman DutchWindMill onslaugh
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Nf3               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 35.Kg4:  MeatKiller Smok
\   Romanski pedersen guest2364 riface Junk Hakatak MattF TheGiver OrionsKnight
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 35...Be8:  Hengist Title26 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 35...Be8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 34.  Kh3                 Rh1+              
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: as expected
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: coffins are safe Boo
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
 36.  Bf2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ng2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Nf3               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 36.Bf2:  Charrua Junk Bov
\   Div-anand HYPNOTIST riface mekong Ulysses guest1356 onslaught searcher brut
\   Lefoin Hakatak Packman Hengist guest318 VTR pirireis  (Tell GuessTheMove
\   your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Nf3                 Rf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Nf3                 Rf1               
 38.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Nf3                 Rf1               
 38.  Kg3                 Nf4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Nf3                 Rf1               
 38.  Kg3               

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GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 36...Ng2:  guest1356
\   OldPhoenix Hengist Div-anand MattF Junk Depresto  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Nf3                 Rf1               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 36...Ng2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 35.  Kg4                 Be8               
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe Ra8 first
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bb6 instead of Kg3
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: whjops winning just got here
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: if kramnik wins again i quit chess
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Nf3
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: how can kasparov lose 2 games out of 4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the Ng2 is really awful after Nf3 tho
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: Ra8 played ??!!
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: f6!?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Ra8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Ra8                 Ne1               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 37.Ra8:  MattF shearn3
\   Title26 grandcapi HYPNOTIST Zavros Marriard hexon melissa Ricardo-GC
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fluffy(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nf3
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: im doing 6 thjings at once.....hard to see whats
\   going on
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I guess..
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 37.Ra8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Ra8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: mmm
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: forgive me if i dont see most tells or kibitzes
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 37...Rf1:  grandcapi Marriard
\   Bov Shmo909 VTR pedersen riface  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not sure about Nf3 Bc6
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 37...Rf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 36.  Bf2                 Ng2               
 37.  Ra8                 Rf1               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Kramnik let the champ escape
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: unless Nb5-c7 happens!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bg3 Ne3
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: Kaspy holding on baby
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but  Nb5!!??
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kf3 Nf4
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nc7 is a BIG threat
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I concur that ra8 was wrong, shows how hard it is for
\   even the very best to play under so much tension and pressure
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: f6 g6 or g6 f6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no loophole
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 38.Kf3:  Svensson
\   MestreDosMagos Hengist brut Div-anand MeatKiller jbill ledoc lapti leonid
\   chameleon Whizpig VTR shearn3 searcher Greed Mstahl ERADICATOR FatalImage
\   Shmo909  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: not anymore
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kg3 Nf4
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Ra8                 Rf1               
 38.  Nb5               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 38.Kf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Ra8                 Rf1               
 38.  Kf3               
Zek set *Kramnik's clock to 00:05:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Ra8                 Rf1               
 38.  Kf3               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: if there is a safe draw for white, I would want to
\   grab it now. Mistakes sometimes come in groups...
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 38...Nh4+:  Chessmaster1-1
\   Shortwuck Zedward urbie blunderfish tinycecil guest1087 schroeder  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 38...Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 37.  Ra8                 Rf1               
 38.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 39.Ke2:  MattF riface
\   grandcapi MestreDosMagos deadwood drstrangemove pawnfish Zedward funkdoctor
\   MeatKiller tinycecil mekong guest2108 guest1218 Tesla JHains2 Depresto
\   Woodman VTR onslaught HariSeldonFM joecat28 Zebedee mugabe melissa lapti
\   Lefoin Cuggy Brian-Deegan srinivasan Hakatak l (
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 39.Ke2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 38.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
 39.  Ke2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 38.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: sera que o Kramnik vai ganhar mesmo?
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: nb5 played
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 39...Rh1:  grandcapi
\   chesslion JHains2 guest1087 pewter mhurt Div-anand WisconsinJoe joecat28
\   srinivasan riface Ulysses Miskas MestreDosMagos guest845 HYPNOTIST urbie
\   Keskitalo  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rh1
fluffy(FM)[1] kibitzes: don't second guess Kramnik, girls
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nb5 Nf5-d6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: then BG3 tho
Ctoth(IM)[1] kibitzes: Nb5
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 40.Nb5:  grandcapi Ulysses
\   HariSeldonFM MattF pirireis Charrua GmShackel HYPNOTIST Bov saguni
\   onslaught Flipi riface Ctoth JHains2 Syd2000  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Bh4 Rh4 Nb5 Rc4
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 40.Nb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: wish I had a clue why GK played like this...
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: white wins!! Nb5 Nf5 Nc7 Nd6 Bg3!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but this seems to win

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Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5               
thutters(IM)[2] kibitzes: 1-0
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
 41.  Nc7                 Nd6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Nd6               
 42.  Bg3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
 41.  Nc7                 Nd6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nh4 and Rh1 out of play
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: amazing...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems like Gazza totally lost the plot
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 40...Bxg5:  BrazilianMaster
\   guest1087 Packman deadwood shearn3 VTR grandcapi pedersen riface Ricardo-GC
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Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8              
MichaelH(IM)[2] kibitzes: ...Bxg5 played
Zek set *Kasparov's clock to 01:09:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Bf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Bf4               
 44.  Rf8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: looks over
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 40...Bxg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: noone lost on time
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no aaadjournments
Heliopolitanus(IM)[2] kibitzes: crispy critters
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: seems like the problem for GK is the fast running
\   white "a" pawn after the piece goes. Seems like the kingside pawns take too
\   long to get going.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: 20 in 1 then half an hour sudden death I believe
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: crafty has fainted...
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: set kib 1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no prob
MSK(GM)[1] kibitzes: seems drawish again
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: 
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he is just checking
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
MSK(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems drawish again
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 41.Nc7:  grandcapi Zedward
\   WisconsinJoe Hengist pedersen MattF CanadianProdigy drstrangemove Woodman
\   giesbrec VincentVega melissa MestreDosMagos Packman Hakatak BrazilianMaster
\   onslaught shearn3 Volkisch jbill Socrates HayZeus Wolverine jmedic ledoc
\   guest845 pewter funkdoctor Budweiser F (
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
aries2(IM)[1] kibitzes: it looks dead lost
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the a pawn will queen
MSK(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rh2
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nc7 played
aries2(IM)[1] kibitzes: the a-pawn will become passed
aries2(IM)[1] kibitzes: totally lost
MSK(GM)[2] kibitzes: rh2 draws
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Kc6               
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: whites material advantage is enough to win
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rb8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Kc6               
 44.  Rb8               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 41...Ke7:  guest2364  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: oh
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: true
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I forgot Rh2!
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Kc6               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
 40.  Nb5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 38.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
 39.  Ke2                 Rh1               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 41...Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
aries2(IM)[1] kibitzes: i don't see any technical problems, black's pieces are
\   too far from the a-pawn
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne8 Nf5 is a little messy
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hangs on...  eliminatimg the a pawn
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 41...Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8              
butterfly(FM)[1] kibitzes: my mother could with win this position as white
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne8 Nf5 Bb6 is OK
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
 43.  Bxb6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: should win tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a pawn does the trick here
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8              
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Ne8!, Re8?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
 43.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
 43.  Bxb6                Rh8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Rh8               
 44.  Nc7               
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: Kramnik wil beat Kasparov in a 2N's vs pawn endgame
andante(FM)[2] kibitzes: Bd8
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: or Bc5
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kramnik wins
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: i agree with Mallisa
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the a pawn is decisive as log as it stays for a couple
\   of moves
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 41...Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: piece up that's why
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dont get the second line..  why not take the a pawn?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
 44.  Kd3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxa2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
 44.  Kd3                 Rxa2              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  Kd3                 Rxa2              
 45.  Nc5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  Kd3                 Rxa2              
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: something here??
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  Kd3                 Rxa2              
 45.  Nc5+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
 44.  Kd3                 Rxa2              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
 44.  Kd3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6                Rh2+              
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: The King is dead. Long live the KING.
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Bxb6              
butterfly(FM)[1] kibitzes: any webcam ?
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: kramnik played endgames in all 4 games and leads 3-1
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Rg8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kxc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Rxe8+               Kd7               
 43.  Rg8                 Kxc7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: why??
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxg7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Rg8                 Kxc7              
 44.  Rxg7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bd8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Rg8                 Kxc7              
 44.  Rxg7                Bd8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: its only a pawn!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 41...Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 40.  Nb5                 Bxg5              
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I am sure he will take the piece
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne8 Nf5 Bb6 wins
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: note how black's pieces are blocking his own passed
\   pawns; slows down any possible counterplay
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: there is no series!
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne8 the strongest
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup  I am sure Ne8 wins
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: really amazing yes
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: tucked up happily in his coffin
Diesen(IM)[1] kibitzes: 1-0
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: there are still some technical problems fro Kramnik
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: very sharp game!
aries2(IM)[1] kibitzes: kramnik will dispatch him with no problems.  he can eat
\   with N and the a-pawn will mean adios.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nope
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nc7 or g7...
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 42.Nxe8:  MattF guest2364
\   Johann Wolverine VTR jbill CanadianProdigy Hengist jmedic blunderfish flint
\   chiacs tinycecil guest2238 Depresto grandcapi Packman drstrangemove
\   DrakeCasanova Gizmo rehcsiFischer plambeck andrewatts guest1087 Shims
\   Marriard Chessmaster1-1 Smok pewter Sephirot Misk
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: only technical prob is that he will only have 1 pawn
\   left
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: however 1 queen s enough
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 42...Nxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 41.  Nc7                 Ke7               
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 42...Nxf5:  flint grandcapi
\   llucky  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 43.Bxb6:  Zedward Cue-ball
\   Hengist guest1321 MestreDosMagos grandcapi pontagrossense MeatKiller
\   TiniBini ME-good guest2238 tolstoi rehcsiFischer  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 43.Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
 43.  Bxb6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not long...  :)
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: i dont know how Kaspi will stop the a pawn
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: Be very interesting to see how Kramnik deals with
\   being the front runner and not the underdog.
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: kramnik cant lose the match if he wins this game
curtains(IM)[1] kibitzes: its impossible
PUBCHESS(FM)[1] kibitzes: rh8 bc5+
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: MAYBE nF4 DIDNT SOLVE EVERYTHING..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Im not sy=ure
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but it must have n=been better
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: ... Rh8 loses the rook fir free
Zek has stopped examining game 1.
PUBCHESS(FM)[1] kibitzes: :o)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe he should try Rh8
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Rh8 Ra7+
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but then Ra7 is strong
PUBCHESS(FM)[1] kibitzes: tell graand-patzer a ti tambien te ha tirao el
\   servidor o que
Zek is now an examiner of game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: exchange of Rs leaves some hope of reaching 2Ns v p!
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: ...Bf4
PUBCHESS(FM)[1] kibitzes: .yo creo que ha tirado a todo el mundo
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 43...Kd7:  MattF OldPhoenix
\   guest2238 Carlao ME-good grandcapi Baxpace Forkball MeatKiller HYPNOTIST
\   guest420 Dito crimlawboy TheLearner Zedward The-Cleaner LiveOak Charrua
\   guest724 guest2364 Mate-Maker KelviSh Geordi  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no days off in this match I believe
dademar(FM)[2] kibitzes: Rh8 Bc5 wins the exchange I guess...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 43...Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 42.  Nxe8                Nxf5              
 43.  Bxb6                Kd7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: trying to restrict the Ne8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and hi
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and hoping  to catch the a pawn
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 with a5 and Nc5 in mind
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 looks killing
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rb1 NC5 and a5
trail(IM)[1] whispers: a
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: is this showing on ESPN2
trail(IM)[1] whispers: a4
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: CNN
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: CNN Sports
Diesen(IM)[1] kibitzes: kasp 4-13-63
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: EWTN
morsa(FM)[1] kibitzes: i think Kramnik stopped smoking
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not really
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: BET
AtlaS-LioN(IM)[1] kibitzes: :))
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: it showin' on BET
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: is this that easy --how?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: .
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: mm?
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: I saw him smoking in Dortmund 98
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: a4 - Kc6 - a5 - Rh8!?
aries2(IM)[2] kibitzes: it looks like kramnik played very well!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: well a4 is not subtle
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but ithas its points
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Yes on BET!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nd4 also fine
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: kasparov started smoking in london 2000 :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: swap the N to avoid 2Ns vP  :)
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Black must pin his hopes to the strangely placed
\   knight on e8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I lika a4 a5
aries2(IM)[2] kibitzes: it's funny how kramnik made a QGA look like a Keres
\   Attack in the middlegame
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: a4 rb1 nc5 kc6 a5 looks all over
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: you did not know that Kasparov is 81.5768574930 %
\   black!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: mmm
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nd4 look right to me
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 seems simple enough
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: innacurate, Kasp is 82.98957365328 % balck!
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: and the bishop still covers g1
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Ok, a4 - Kc6
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Kaspa is lost
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: krist' then a5?
aries2(IM)[2] kibitzes: kramnik's middle game play looked phenomenal!
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 Rh2 Kd3 and Kc4
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Rh8
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: yeah hes squirming around a bit at the board
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: after Nd4 Nd4 Bd4 Rh8 Nc7 Rh2 Kg1 Kc7 Be5 Kb7 Rb8  :)
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Yes, Nd4 immidiately
micheliavelli(IM)[2] kibitzes: kram will let him suffer without queens this
\   match, will become first king without queen.-)
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: hes got both hands on his face now
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nf6 Bf6...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: uneccesssary
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: just a4
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: NO ONE on earth plays the Queens Gambit better as white
\   than Vlad !
zilonis(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ng3+ Kf3 and ?
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: krist':  a4 kc6 a5 rh8 nd4 nd4 bd4
D-Fridman(IM)[2] kibitzes: aa
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: And Kb7
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Kb7!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a4 Bh4  Nc5 Kc6 a5
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the a pawn is faster
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: is vk just looking for best way?
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: few more games yet.... fb895
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kramnik forgot to agree it  :)
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: remember 1984....
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 44.a4:  Hengist Dito pirireis
\   brut Charrua MestreDosMagos ME-good guest2238 j37 guest724 Grant Attlee
\   thebundy trail crimlawboy saguni HangerOn onslaught JHains2 melissa
\   ABC-BLITZ guest2364 BahaBoy jbill smlewis Knife Romanski peteleco pedersen
\   UKDork flint guest1805 Shmo909 leonid VTR  (T
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: or 72...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 44.a4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Kd7               
 44.  a4                
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: problem for GK is the black minors don't work well in
\   stopping the a pawn
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: twill be interesting to see him try..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: drawing the next 40 wont do it this time tho!
\   london-moscow and get back in 3 games !!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: then Rc8 looks good   e4
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: lend GK a hat, so he can pull a rabbit out of it...
aries2(IM)[2] kibitzes: no he's not too relaxed, kramnik played incredibly well
\   in this middlegame.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nothing to refute
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rb1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Kd7               
 44.  a4                  Rb1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rb1               
 45.  Nc5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rb1               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nexT?
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Kc6 gives kasp some chances .... he still lost but it's
\   just a trick. g6 is neccessary for it to work though.
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: axb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
 47.  axb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kxc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
 47.  axb6                Kxc5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: b7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  axb6                Kxc5              
 48.  b7                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
 47.  axb6                Kxc5              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
 47.  axb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Rxb6              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rb1               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Be3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Be3               
 47.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Be3               
 47.  Rc8+                Kb5               
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: Kc6!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxg7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 48.  Nxg7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 44.a4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Kd7               
 44.  a4                
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: That's true I beleive Krammnik is a much better person
\   than arrogant Kasparov!
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 44...Rh3:  ME-good
\   MestreDosMagos Romanski sydneyraj KALLISTO Ulysses Dito guest724 riface
\   RubberSoul grandcapi Zedward donymo Nicktank Seu-Madruga MitailKal gen98 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 44...Rh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 43.  Bxb6                Kd7               
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 45.Nc5+:  Ulysses Hengist
\   south-saturn Nc3-4Me Grant VTR pewter MestreDosMagos flint  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I guess
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 45.Nc5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 45...Kc6:  Hengist deadduck
\   fweep guest1218 saguni WisconsinJoe MestreDosMagos onslaught Rooklift flint
\   ABC-BLITZ Campomanes JeffB guest2238 donymo OrionsKnight MitailKal
\   guest2946 mjh crimlawboy guest724 grandcapi VTR Knife hyde Mate-Maker
\   KALLISTO Zebedee Joyoyo Stormbringer KelviSh Spri
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: does Gazza know its fixed??
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 45...Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: what do the computers say?
Game 2: TonyM moves: a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
 47.  Kd1               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 45...Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: who is this other guy on the webcam audio besides
\   danny king
gringo(FM)[1] kibitzes: I always thaught that eventually Krammnik would
\   distress Kasparov. BUT, don't put anything past Kasparov. I beleive that if
\   he wins one game this is going to booost him and he will start to go on a
\   roll of wins!
Game 2: TonyM moves: a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: First few to predict 46.a5:  Hengist flint
\   grandcapi Ulysses ExPawnential guest2364 Sabalero MestreDosMagos guest2238
\   Grant saguni onslaught HYPNOTIST damiandemetrius Campomanes giesbrec
\   asonjay2k pewter guest2704 deadduck pedersen JeffB raphi Zebedee crimlawboy
\   MitailKal FatalImage Joyoyo HangerOn Springer (T
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: any programs finding hope for black here?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Rf3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Rf3+              
 48.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Rf3+              
 48.  Kg2                 Be3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: trying to weave a net
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Kg2                 Be3               
 49.  Nd3               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I see lots of checks, but they don't seem to lead
\   anywhere...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: needs help tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hard to mate an open king
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: looks like good counterplay for Kasparov white pieces are
\   very passive...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: too many flight squares
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
 47.  Kd1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
 47.  Kd1                 Nd4               
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: fritz 6 gives +2.37 +-
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: maybe...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: with Rg3 if allowed
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Tony Kosten I guess
AZ79(IM)[1] kibitzes: or Lasker vs Capablanca RomanD, Lasker was the better
\   tournament player, still he had no chances in a match against Capa's
\   positional style
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: Kasparov is clasping
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Nd4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Nd4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Nd4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Nd4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: N7e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N7e6              
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: Kasparov's fans face it: he is dead lost
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W is winning
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ehheheh  He didnt take it!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: better try
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: intending Rh1 h2 and  Nf3
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: that is a problem
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Rh1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 44.  a4                  Rh3               
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: Game in progress
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kd1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1#
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kd1                 Rh1#              
White has been checkmated.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: praps...
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kd1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: saing chance..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: saving
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2                 Rh3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Kg2                 Rh3               
 51.  Kg1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2                 Rh3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
 51.  Kg1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
 51.  Kg1                 Nf3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kg1                 Nf3+              
 52.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 103.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: f5!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
 50.  Nd6+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no squares
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bf4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rh1+              
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
 51.  Kg1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Kg2                 Rh2+              
 51.  Kg1                 Nf3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kg1                 Nf3+              
 52.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: f5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kg1                 Nf3+              
 52.  Kf1                 f5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: N8d6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Kf1                 f5                
 53.  N8d6+             
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: why the clock isnt running?
neiman(FM)[1] kibitzes: is not Kramnik just stronger than Gary ?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bh4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Bh4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bh4               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Bh4               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nd6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nd6+                Kb4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Na6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nd6+                Kb4               
 50.  Na6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nd6+                Kb4               
 50.  Na6+                Kb3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxd4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Na6+                Kb3               
 51.  Bxd4              
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Dr(GM)[2] kibitzes: the game will be drawn
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Be3!?
Pigzilla(GM)[1] kibitzes: maybe Kf1 is better after Nd4+
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Gazza  desperately searching for a non existent mate
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: where's doctor Tonymiles?
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Be3!? is an interesting suggestion from my good
\   friend Poul Erik Nørgård Olesen
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: alreadty did mewt
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: only an imaginary glimmer
micheliavelli(IM)[2] kibitzes: try it don-beletino:-)
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: does anyones webcam keep freezing up with congestion?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nd6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nd6+                Kb4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nd6+                Kb4               
 50.  Nd3+              
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Rh2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rh2+              
 47.  Kf3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nh4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Rh2+              
 47.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
 48.  Kg3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg2+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf3                 Nh4+              
 48.  Kg3                 Rg2+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Kg3                 Rg2+              
 49.  Kh3               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B needs to keep the WK restricted
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: it is Saturday
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: food would be appreciated more
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Gazza still thinkin...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: i have a plus score against Kramnik,  but that isnt very
\   relevant either,,,
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: does seem so..
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: er der nordjyder online?
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Nd4+              
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
 48.  Rc8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kf1                 Be3               
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: maybe'
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+              
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: 1-0
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kd5               
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
 50.  Nd6+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nope
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Rd8+                Kc4               
 50.  Nd6+                Kc3               
Diesen(IM)[2] kibitzes: game aborted by mutual agreement
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nce4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Nd6+                Kc3               
 51.  Nce4+             
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Nd6+                Kc3               
 51.  Nce4+               Kc2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nce4+               Kc2               
 52.  Nc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nce4+               Kc2               
 52.  Nc4                 Rh1+              
DaveTheBrave set *Kasparov's clock to 00:24:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Nc4                 Rh1+              
 53.  Kg2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Nc4                 Rh1+              
 53.  Kg2                 Rg1+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Kg2                 Rg1+              
 54.  Kh2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nf3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Kg2                 Rg1+              
 54.  Kh2                 Nf3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kh3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Kh2                 Nf3+              
 55.  Kh3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: end?
Game 2: TonyM moves: g5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Kh2                 Nf3+              
 55.  Kh3                 g5                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  Kh3                 g5                
 56.  Nxe3+             
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: B needs to keep the WK restricted
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46.a5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dont know exact times..  but these are close
blitzky(IM)[1] kibitzes: it might be winning for white, but it's not that easy
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup  stu
DaveTheBrave set *Kramnik's clock to 00:25:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: unless B can find a miracle W wins
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Be3 - Rc8+ - Kb5 - Nc7+ - Kc4!?
dapsay(IM)[2] kibitzes: i can see a new world champion!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: 14 moves to the time control
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: feels like Gazzas last chance to drum something up..
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: still haven't found any solid ideas for black, but
\   still feels like black is active enough to set a good trap or two. Problem
\   is I haven't found any lines, even with some white co-operation, that save
\   the game.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dont think it will work tho
fluffy(FM)[1] kibitzes: Emanuel!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ne7!!???
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: GK is such a great player, I do expect him to find at
\   least one clever trap or trick here. I just don't have any idea what it
\   could be...
Saopaulo(FM)[2] kibitzes: i can see the world champion
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wrong continent actually
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nice line delano
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 46...Re3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 45.  Nc5+                Kc6               
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Shipov believes Re3+ gives some chances
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this will need to be studylike..
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 47.Kd1:  grandcapi Dito Grant
\   chameleon Seu-Madruga  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 47.Kd1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
 47.  Kd1               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 47...Re7:  chameleon kajjohan
\   Farwest ChessWise grandcapi  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: still here...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 47...Re7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 46.  a5                  Re3+              
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: that is obscure ebnough
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: so what do the programs think, has GK found a defense?
Tendulkar(GM)[1] kibitzes: rc8 kb5 nc7 kc4 ne4! re4 ne6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: idea of Ne3 takes Bb6
Playgirl(WIM)[2] kibitzes: come on the poor young fischer!!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nice try!
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 48.Rc8+:  Dito guest2946
\   Zebedee mekong damiandemetrius DDavison Claudius Ulysses Tendulkar
\   Campomanes fcr4655 crimlawboy chameleon mardoy guest2364 Shmo909 grandcapi
\   HangerOn Dantes1  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Kristiansen(IM)[2] kibitzes: Kc2
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: Ne4!?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ne4 is legal
lsokol(IM)[1] kibitzes: Re4?
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
Game 2: TonyM moves: N7e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N7e6              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a;lso a thought
neiman(FM)[1] kibitzes: what about Cc7+? it is winning or...?
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: mustnt allow Ne3-d5/c4
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  a6                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  a6                  Ne3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  a6                  Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  a6                  Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1                 Nd5+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and Nb6
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: these commentators are funny to listen to
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
neiman(FM)[1] kibitzes: Kn c7+ ,Rb4, a6  qué pasa?
Game 2: TonyM moves: N5e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N5e6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N5e6                Ne3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  N5e6                Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bh6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  N5e6                Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1                 Bh6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kc1                 Bh6               
 52.  Kb1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: fxe6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kc1                 Bh6               
 52.  Kb1                 fxe6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: a6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Kb1                 fxe6              
 53.  a6                
Finegold(IM)[1] whispers: Hodgson is one of them
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Finegold(IM)[1] whispers: not sure who the other bozo is
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: N7e6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N7e6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  N7e6                Nd6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  N7e6                Nd6               
 51.  Rc6               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  Ne4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: also poss
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: if a6 Ne3-d5xb6
TD(FM)[2] kibitzes: tony kosten and danny king
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: ahh! Kosten is speaking now i think
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: well, i know Hodgson is one of them now....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he doesnt
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  Re8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: lot of pressure on Kramnik now, piece up and great
\   chances to win and the huge fear of messing it up. Don't underestimate the
\   difficulty of finding the right move when your emotions are churning away
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
 51.  Kc1                 Nd5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kc1                 Nd5+              
 52.  Kb1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Kc1                 Nd5+              
 52.  Kb1                 Rxe8              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Kb1                 Rxe8              
 53.  Nxe8              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Kb1                 Rxe8              
 53.  Nxe8                Nxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: axb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nxe8                Nxb6              
 54.  axb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kxc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nxe8                Nxb6              
 54.  axb6                Kxc5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: b7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  axb6                Kxc5              
 55.  b7                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  axb6                Kxc5              
 55.  b7                  Bf4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: welll   actually he does  :)
vouldis(IM)[2] kibitzes: why not Ke2 instead of Kc1
morsa(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nc7+ Kc4 Nce6! +-
Finegold(IM)[2] kibitzes: I know one is Hodgson..the other sounds like King I
\   guess....now there is a third...maybe Kosten?
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 48...Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 47.  Kd1                 Re7               
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  Re8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Nc7+                Kc4               
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
 51.  Ke2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: true!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: thanks
Pakky(IM)[1] kibitzes: Nb7 is interesting
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Re8                 Ne3+              
 51.  Ke2                 Rxe8              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nxe8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Ke2                 Rxe8              
 52.  Nxe8              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Ke2                 Rxe8              
 52.  Nxe8                Nd5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Nxe8                Nd5               
 53.  Nd6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Nxe8                Nd5               
 53.  Nd6+                Kb4               
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: why Te8 tony?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nd6+                Kb4               
 54.  Nd3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ka4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nd6+                Kb4               
 54.  Nd3+                Ka4               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 49.Ne4:  Campomanes AZ79
\   HangerOn Miskas PhillyTutor pedersen saguni joltingjoe  (Tell GuessTheMove
\   your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 49.Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
morsa(FM)[1] kibitzes: Psy well, tell me whay do you suggest? :)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: easier!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I prefered Rc8 first personally
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: suddenly bishop and rook pawn of the wrong color
\   themes start to matter
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne3+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Ne3+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Ne3+              
 50.  Ke2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Ne3+              
 50.  Ke2                 Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Ke2                 Rxe4              
 51.  Nd6+              
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: hardly
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 49.Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Rc5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ka6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Rc5+                Ka6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Rc5+                Ka6               
 51.  Rxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Rc5+                Ka6               
 51.  Rxf5                Be3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Rxf5                Be3               
 52.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Rxf5                Be3               
 52.  Nc7+                Kb7               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 49.Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: c'est fini pour Gary amigos!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wrong RP is only relevant if Rs and Ns exchanged
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Nc7+                Kc6               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: might not woork for W
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 49.Ne4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I really preferred Rc8+first
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: that way the BK would have been out of play
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 49...Rxe4:  HangerOn guest161
\   pondpusher Knife Quilksilver pedersen RS PhillyTutor Gojira DaveTheBrave
\   VTR guest350 boubou Nonono Ulysses schroeder DarkSoul  (Tell GuessTheMove
\   your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 50.Rc5+:  Ringwraith7
\   OrionsKnight rbnn Zedward RS HangerOn Romanski  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 48.  Rc8+                Kb5               
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Nc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 49.  Ne4                 Rxe4              
 50.  Nc7+                Kc6               
Game 1: Zek moves: Rxf5
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 52.Rxf5:  rbnn  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ne6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Nc7+                Kc6               
 51.  Ne6+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 50.  Nc7+                Kc6               
 51.  Ne6+                Kd7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not so easy!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 52.Rxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5              
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: Game Over
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this will win tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but Rc8 was surely simpler
Game 2: TonyM moves: f6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                f6                
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                f6                
 53.  Rb5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a6 coming...
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 52.Rxf5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Nb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ka6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Nb5                 Ka6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nb5                 Ka6               
 54.  Nd6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Nb5                 Ka6               
 54.  Nd6                 Re6               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 52...Be3:  Zedward
\   RockEmSockEm chuda DRAGONX Kilson Quaker avinalaf pedersen p-pister
\   Slacrates ABC-BLITZ Quilksilver PhillyTutor Miskas  (Tell GuessTheMove your
\   guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nc4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Nd6                 Re6               
 55.  Nc4               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: grim
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 52...Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
Zek set *Kasparov's clock to 00:04:43
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Be3 played
gonzalez(IM)[2] kibitzes: Rf7 !
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Rxf7              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Rxf7                Bxb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Rxf7                Bxb6              
 54.  Nd5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ka6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Rxf7                Bxb6              
 54.  Nd5+                Ka6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: axb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Nd5+                Ka6               
 55.  axb6              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rd4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Nd5+                Ka6               
 55.  axb6                Rd4+              
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 52...Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: Fxe3 Txe3 and Txf7 simpler
Game 2: TonyM moves: Bxe3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Bxe3              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxe3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Bxe3                Rxe3              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxf7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Bxe3                Rxe3              
 54.  Rxf7              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Br awkward
POTZY(DM)[1] kibitzes: The evaluation in channel 211 just jumped from +3.1 to
\   +4.8 for white... looks like Be3 was a big mistake
Henley(GM)[2] kibitzes: Re5!?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Re5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Bxe3                Rxe3              
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: a6+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
 55.  a6+               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
 55.  a6+                 Kb6               
Henley(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kb6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: not so easy though
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: The evaluation in channel 211 just jumped from +3.1 to
\   +4.8 for white... looks like Be3 was a big mistake
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the a pawn goes
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxg7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  a6+                 Kb6               
 56.  Rxg7              
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: what else can black play but Be3?
TD(FM)[2] kibitzes: what's the line POTZY?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  a6+                 Kb6               
 56.  Rxg7                Rc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: draw
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 52...Be3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 51.  Nc7+                Kb7               
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
leop(GM)[2] kibitzes: a7
Henley(GM)[2] kibitzes: Idea a7 oops
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Nb5 I think
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: Bxe3 Rxe3 Rxf7
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 53.Bxe3:  Ringwraith7 Miskas
\   chessbuff scapcostis GallantKnight fbx HangerOn flint ThatFatMoogle
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TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: no
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: only if  W played that
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 53...Rxe3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 52.  Rxf5                Be3               
 53.  Bxe3                Rxe3              
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 54.Rxf7:  Ringwraith7 Dito
\   Cossin flint Miskas Woade south-saturn Knife Gizmo chessbuff Mefisto5000 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 54...Re5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 53.  Bxe3                Rxe3              
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: my god!!!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: he did!!
gonzalez(IM)[2] kibitzes: a6 instead of Rf7 wins
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: draw?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
 55.  Nd5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ka6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
 55.  Nd5+                Ka6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nb4+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  Nd5+                Ka6               
 56.  Nb4+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ah!
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  Nd5+                Ka6               
 56.  Nb4+                Kb5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rf4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 56.  Nb4+                Kb5               
 57.  Rf4               
Saopaulo(FM)[2] kibitzes: rb7
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and now a6 wins
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 55.Rxg7:  HayZeus  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 55.Rxg7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 54.  Rxf7                Re5               
 55.  Rxg7              
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: what's the winning plan?
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: 54.a6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: what??????
zpx(IM)[2] kibitzes: draw
leop(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kc6 and Rh5....
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: and then a6!
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 55.a6+:  Uwe-Arndt  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: this is the game
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: this game has been full of odd turns that I sure
\   didn't expect ... this is another
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I cant believe this!!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 56.Rxg7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 55.  a6+                 Kb6               
 56.  Rxg7              
Tendulkar(GM)[1] kibitzes: Re4!
leop(GM)[2] kibitzes: also me...
Tendulkar(GM)[1] kibitzes: rc5 a7 Ka7 Ne6
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: ah...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the   relayer misseda move!
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: Tc5 a7!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc5 a7
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 56...Ra5:  Kilson Chess-Tiger
\   HayZeus  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: but Re4-c4?
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 57.Kd2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 56.  Rxg7                Ra5               
 57.  Kd2               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: how does W doisentangle?
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 58...Rh1:  guest2364  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 58...Rh1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
Ostap(GM)[1] kibitzes: Rg8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I really didnt like what Kramnik did there...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: needs to get his K too c8 mow
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: what do the computers say?
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: The white king goes to protect the knight!
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 59.Kb2:  Kregspiel  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 59...Rh8:  checkmatiste 
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rg8 Ra1
Saopaulo(FM)[2] kibitzes: Kc8 rh8+ and?
morsa(FM)[2] kibitzes: Rg8 wins?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rh7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8                 Rh7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rb8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Rg8                 Rh7               
 60.  Rb8+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wins
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8                 Rh7               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8                 Ra1               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: thio
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 59...Rh8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rc8 coming
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: ..rc8=?
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 60.Kb3:  Kregspiel
\   ChessCrawler drstrangemove RiverPlate Zebedee flint  (Tell GuessTheMove
\   your guess)
Zek set *Kramnik's clock to 00:32:05
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
 60.  Kb3               
zpx(IM)[2] kibitzes: draw
neiman(FM)[2] kibitzes: ob 1
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: awful mistake by Kramnik..
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 60...Rc8:  Attlee Romanski
\   Mefisto5000 rbnn Mate-Maker  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
cosimo(IM)[2] kibitzes: whoops.....
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: seems like GK got his miracle draw
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 60...Rc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
 60.  Kb3                 Rc8               
Zek set *Kasparov's clock to 00:32:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
 60.  Kb3                 Rc8               
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: which move tonym?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: a7 Ka7
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: R+N vR
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: never expected GK to save this, truly amazing. Has to
\   be very good for Gary's confidence to save such a position.
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 61.a7:  Claudius  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dead draw ..  except against Polgar
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 61.a7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 60.  Kb3                 Rc8               
 61.  a7                
WoodTree(IM)[1] kibitzes: 50-move-rule coming into action now ;-)
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
 60.  Kb3                 Rc8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
 60.  Kb3               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Kb2                 Rh8               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Kb2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
 58.  Kc2               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 56.  Rxg7                Ra5               
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
Game 2: TonyM backs up 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 56.  Rxg7                Ra5               
 57.  Kd2               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 56.  Rxg7                Ra5               
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: too much tension, too many dreams, too much pressure
\   for perfect chess
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
 58.  Kc2               
Game 2: TonyM goes forward 1.
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 57.  Kd2                 Ra1               
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 61...Kxa7:  Ringwraith7
\   RiverPlate GoLeafsGo schroeder Claudius blunderfish guest2680 Chess-Tiger
\   Zebedee Dito bookish flint shearn3 geyserville rbnn Mefisto5000 hape Knife
\   DDavison pondpusher Romanski  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 58.  Kc2                 Rh1               
 59.  Rg8                 Ra1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Rg8                 Ra1               
 60.  Kb2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 59.  Rg8                 Ra1               
 60.  Kb2                 Ra5               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 60.  Kb2                 Ra5               
 61.  Rc8               
gonzalez(IM)[2] kibitzes: Nd5 instead of kb2
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 60.  Kb2                 Ra5               
 61.  Rc8                 Ra4               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb3
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 61.  Rc8                 Ra4               
 62.  Kb3               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ra1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 61.  Rc8                 Ra4               
 62.  Kb3                 Ra1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 62.  Kb3                 Ra1               
 63.  Nd5+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wins
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems that was a win
neiman(FM)[1] kibitzes: ok Kb4 what do you play?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: when??
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 61...Kxa7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 60.  Kb3                 Rc8               
 61.  a7                  Kxa7              
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: I think Kramnik's brain went on strike the last 10
\   moves. I bet he saw less than 50% of what he normally would. What a
\   pressure cooker for both players.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kb4 and keep trying to sqeeze
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: clear draw tho
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: unbelievable escape!!!
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yes  Amazing
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: missed a hundred wins
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: this isn't considered a hard draw, R+B vs R is thought
\   to be harder to save
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: hard for him to play the next game after that!!
Tzerminator(IM)[1] kibitzes: how it was winning?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: the last blunder was not playing Rg9
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rg8
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: VK   has always seemed to have bad nerves in matches
DaveTheBrave is now an examiner of game 1.
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 62.Kb4:  Sir-Mike Memmius
\   Kilson Claudius ChessCrawler rbnn Chessphilo onslaught guest2881 Kregspiel
\   PVSousa riface  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kasp did win this against Judit Polgar
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: Kramnik has just learned how much big pressure can
\   affect normal thinking. Can he adjust and shake off the feeling of pressure
\   in future games? Time will tell...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: however.....
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: yup  Back from the dead!
Banzai(IM)[2] kibitzes: is this a joke????!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 62.Kb4
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 61.  a7                  Kxa7              
 62.  Kb4               
zpx(IM)[2] kibitzes: draw
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: chess is a game of mistakes..
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: didnt expect those tho!
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 62...Kb6:  flint
\   MestreDosMagos crimlawboy blunderfish  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 1: Zek moves: Ka6
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 62.  Kb4                 Kb6               
 63.  Nd5+                Ka6               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 63...Ka6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 62.  Kb4                 Kb6               
 63.  Nd5+                Ka6               
Game 1: Zek moves: Kb7
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 63.  Nd5+                Ka6               
 64.  Rg6+                Kb7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Rg6 and Kb5
Game 1: Zek moves: Rc1
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 64.  Rg6+                Kb7               
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 65...Rc1:  Sabalero  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 65...Rc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 64.  Rg6+                Kb7               
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: match strategy may dictate playing this out if Kramnik
\   is trying to "wear out" GK.
Kristiansen(IM)[1] kibitzes: in move 59 Rg8 might have won
micheliavelli(IM)[1] kibitzes: everbody talking about kramniks nerves, does he
\   miss a clear win moves ago?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: wonder who has the stamina tomorrow
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: could be a big turning point
KidChamp(FM)[2] kibitzes: is this considered a drawn position?
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
 66.  Rg7+              
Kristiansen(IM)[1] kibitzes: But..as proposed..56.-, Re4 might have been
\   dram...nerves, nerves, nerves...
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kc8
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
 66.  Rg7+                Kc8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: K runs to the centre
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: like R+B v R  but simpler
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: where did Kramnik go wrong? 59.Rg8 won, right?
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: W K needs to cross the c lne but cant..
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 65...Rc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 64.  Rg6+                Kb7               
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 66.Rg2:  Grand-Dutchman Nexus
\   (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 66.Rg2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 65.  Kb5                 Rc1               
 66.  Rg2               
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 66...Kc8:  Colstrip  (Tell
\   GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 1: Zek moves: Kd8
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 66.  Rg2                 Kc8               
 67.  Rg7                 Kd8               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Garry has the advantage of actually having [played this!
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 68.Nf6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 67.  Rg7                 Kd8               
 68.  Nf6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc2
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 67.  Rg7                 Kd8               
 68.  Nf6                 Rc2               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb6
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc2               
 69.  Kb6               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc1
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc2               
 69.  Kb6                 Rc1               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kb7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Kb6                 Rc1               
 70.  Kb7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rc7+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Kb6                 Rc1               
 70.  Kb7                 Rc7+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rxc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 70.  Kb7                 Rc7+              
 71.  Rxc7              
Black has been stalemated.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: :)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 68...Rc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 67.  Rg7                 Kd8               
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw stupid people!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: dont think tnhere is any 75 move rule
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: and certainly not for this!
POTZY(DM)[2] kibitzes: Calm down guys, Rg8+ Ke7 Nd5+ Kf7 draws :)
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nd5+ Kf7!
Kristiansen(IM)[1] kibitzes: But...anyhow, 52.-, Be3! was a great try for
\   salvation!
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Kf7
Game 2: TonyM moves: Rg8+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
 69.  Rg8+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Ke7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
 69.  Rg8+                Ke7               
Game 2: TonyM moves: Nd5+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Rg8+                Ke7               
 70.  Nd5+              
Game 2: TonyM moves: Kf7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Rg8+                Ke7               
 70.  Nd5+                Kf7               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 68...Rc7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 67.  Rg7                 Kd8               
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
Hardcore(FM)[1] kibitzes: seems like a lot of people have trouble looking an
\   extra half move ahead
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: Nd5+ Kf7!
POTZY(DM)[1] kibitzes: Rg8+ Ke7 Nd5+ only draws guys.... Kf7 attacking the rook
\   on g8
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 69.Rg5:  Grand-Dutchman
\   MWCHESS DRAGONX Johann guest2062 Slacrates  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 69.Rg5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
 69.  Rg5               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 69...Rf7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 68.  Nf6                 Rc7               
 69.  Rg5                 Rf7               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 70.Nd5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Rg5                 Rf7               
 70.  Nd5               
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 70...Kd7
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Rg5                 Rf7               
 70.  Nd5                 Kd7               
Zek set *Kramnik's clock to 00:24:00
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 69.  Rg5                 Rf7               
 70.  Nd5                 Kd7               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: nope  boe
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw

   **ANNOUNCEMENT** from POTZY: Kasparov pulls out a miracle DRAW in game 4
\   against Kramnik!   The score is now 2.5-1.5 Kramnik.  Next game tomorrow at
\   10am ICC time!  Be here!

Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I think its over...
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: fortunately draw
GuessTheMove(C)[1] whispers: Correctly predicting 71.Rg6:  Claudius llcm276
\   Kregspiel Zebedee  (Tell GuessTheMove your guess)
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: pretty amazing save
Game 1: Zek moves: Kc5
Game 1 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 71.  Rg6                 Rf1               
 72.  Kc5               
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: astonishing escape...   the mmentum will have really
\   swung now
qwe(IM)[2] kibitzes: Many miracles, and I am sure there are more to come...
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: big chance for Kasp to rub it in tomorrow!
Kingway(IM)[1] kibitzes: bye all, c ya tomorrow. Wouldn't mind another
\   queenless game if it this exciting
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 73...Rd1+
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 72.  Kc5                 Rc1+              
 73.  Kd4                 Rd1+              
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Im not sure if its over
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: draw draw draw
Game 2: TonyM gets an update from game 1, last move 74.Ke5
Game 2 (*Kramnik vs. *Kasparov)
Move  *Kramnik            *Kasparov      
----  --------------      --------------
 73.  Kd4                 Rd1+              
 74.  Ke5               
Game 1: Game drawn by mutual agreement
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: effectively tho  yes
DaveTheBrave has stopped examining game 1.
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: seems so
ShadoMaster(IM)[2] kibitzes: This is draw, with correct play
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: Ok  Folks...  Thanks for watching
TonyM(GM)[2] kibitzes: I am back tomorrow for the next game
Lombardy(GM)[2] kibitzes: draw agreed!
AZ79(IM)[2] kibitzes: dont forget that GK perhaps threw a win away in the last
\   game, he thinks he was winning after h4 instead of h3, anyway next game
\   should be very interesting
Lombardy(GM)[2] kibitzes: thanks Tony/
TonyM has stopped examining game 2.
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: KASPAROV THE GREATEST!
Sethus(FM)[1] kibitzes: NOBODY CAN DEFEAT HIM!
Tzerminator(IM)[1] kibitzes: after rg8 ra1?
Tzerminator(IM)[1] kibitzes: nd5 kc5

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